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vqc
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07-31-2006, 04:54 AM
Post subject: 25 NL 6max. 77. PLaying without a set.
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($28.55)
UTG ($29.50)
MP ($13)
Button ($25.40)
SB ($31.75)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 , 7 . SB posts a blind of $0.10.
3 folds, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.75.
Flop: ($2) 3 , K, 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2.6, SB calls $2.10.
Turn: ($7.20) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
River: ($7.20) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2.
Final Pot: $11.20
it doesnt seem like he would lead a 5 on teh flop
i guess he could check with a 9 on the turn.
is it a good call?
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aislephive
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I'd fold the river, it's clearly a -EV call. It's hard not to call though because you just want to see wtf he had, but I think his bet is too small to be a bluff, I'd be more likely to call if he lead out for the pot or something. A better line is to call the flop then raise the turn for a free showdown, or to raise flop bet turn if you think he is on a draw.
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gabe
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Originally Posted by aislephive
I'd fold the river, it's clearly a -EV call.
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you need to stop saying stuff like this, its not 'clearly -ev'
you played it fine vq, although sometimes i fire again on turn. they would have to be very vey passive for me to fold this on river.
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natdang
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It's marginal, but I call, if not for anything, then just for future reads/info. But I think a 5 is certainly likely, he tried to take the flop, but your call slowed him down. The check on the turn gave him confidence in his 5 again.
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aislephive
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Originally Posted by gabe
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Originally Posted by aislephive
I'd fold the river, it's clearly a -EV call.
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you need to stop saying stuff like this, its not 'clearly -ev'
you played it fine vq, although sometimes i fire again on turn. they would have to be very vey passive for me to fold this on river. |
I've got thousands of hands at 25-50nl, and this line is KJ like 98% of the time. It might not be as clear cut of a fold as I said, but I can't imagine us being good here very often at all, I think maybe it's a 10-1 shot.
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andy-akb
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I agree with aislephive, this is going to be a K the majority of the time.
Reads could change a lot though, do you have any?
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pgil
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thats a 5 or a busted flush draw as often as its a K at 25nl. if the second card on the flop was an 8, then you could make a pretty good case for folding the river.
i would be more worried about the str8 having hit than him having a K. if he has the K9, then it makes more sense (trying to trap/CR with 2 pr), but not a KJ. either way, i call.
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biondino
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I think Aislephive is right - it's a weak king, and only a massive raise on the river is going to make him consider folding.
It *could* be 66-99 but I don't think so. I don't think it's a 5 as a 5 folds to the flop raise. I also don't think a missed flush bets like this at $25. K9-KJ is practically inevitable.
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Waterdick
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I think villain has a weak K. He called the flop raise then slowed down on turn. Heros check gave him confidence to bet river.
vcq, wut was the result?
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vqc
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it wasnt KJo
or a 66-99
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johnny_fish
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Originally Posted by vqc
it wasnt KJo
or a 66-99
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43/54?
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vqc
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Originally Posted by johnny_fish
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Originally Posted by vqc
it wasnt KJo
or a 66-99
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43/54? |
nope.
the hand in question was kinda oddly played.
threw me for a loop.
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mcatdog
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AA?
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vqc
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Originally Posted by mcatdog
AA?
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this oculd go on forever
he had AK
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drmcboy
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I'd be more likely to call if he lead out for the pot or something.
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sklanksy say no!
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