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Old 11-15-2007, 03:04 AM     Post subject: 22 makes set, Hows the bets? #1 (permalink)  
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Unknown player. Does rasing on the flop give him too much chance to get away? Should the turn bet be bigger?

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($8.70)
Hero ($28.90)
CO ($28.25)
BTN ($38.75)
SB ($24.35)
BB ($6.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.9, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($4, 4 players)
SB bets $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75, 1 fold

Turn: ($7.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.5, SB calls $4.5

River: ($16.5, 2 players)
SB bets $8.75, Hero calls $8.75

Final Pot: $34
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:18 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Raise the flop for sure. Although it shows strength betting into so many players behind you but this is less than half pot.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:19 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Make it 4.25 or so on the flop, bet 2/3 or so on turn. Them diamonds aint nice.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:57 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 raise flop, bet turn and at that point yo cant fold so yay nh.

as played i call the river too.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:50 AM #5 (permalink)  
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raise flop, bet turn and at that point yo cant fold so yay nh.

as played i call the river too.
If you get to the river and the bet is less than pot should you like always call? Even though they blatantly hit the flush and are leading out instead of check/calling this time?

I get in this situation daily where i bet the pot on each street, then the draw completes, villain shoves river for like 1/2 pot, i'm commited and have to call and he shows up with the flush. Is it profitable for villain to keep calling on all streets if they know i call a river shove or should i be able to let it go?
What if it's 3/4 pot? Greater than pot?

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Old 11-15-2007, 12:18 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Of course if he has a flush here every time it's a fold. However, assuming no reads, it would be a call with this bet sizing.

The more he bets, the more he has to be bluffing for you to call. You need a read to tell you how often this is.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:13 PM #7 (permalink)  
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always play sets fast with flush draws up. yes, raise the flop. you committed a cardinal "sklansky sin." you slowplayed when you werent far enough ahead to safely let villain catch up.

your turn bet was ok, imo. it makes him draw unprofitably...so long as you dont pay off river. however, the closer you get to "allowing odds", or the cheaper you let them draw, the more accurate you have to be about NOT paying off when the draws come in. if you are going to pay some off, you need to make them pay a steeper price.
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