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Old 05-16-2007, 08:18 PM     Post subject: 22 200NL vs familiar opp #1 (permalink)  
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Same opp as in my KQ thread this happened at the very end of my session. he is 20/18 still capable of some moves but not overly aggro etc.

Again im very tight PF so my UTG PFR should get some respect. Flop is okay so i c/b. his call i think can incl draws (but im not sure if too many FD combos he could have vs me), pairs floating/slowplaying, air is possible.

Turn. im only looking at 2nd barrelling lately so i think the T is a good card to bluff, right? id perfer and over card besides an Ace tho coz it helps my range.

River, WTF do i do? shove/c,f/b/f

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Button ($264.85)
SB ($77.99)
BB ($255.50)
Hero ($200)
MP ($183.86)
CO ($214.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2, 2.
Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, Button calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($19) 5, J, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button calls $14.

Turn: ($47) T (2 players)
Hero bets $31, Button calls $31.

River: ($109) 6 (2 players)
Hero ???????????
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:31 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Check/fold.

If he's going to give you grief and a little action re-consider auto-betting flops OOP vs him.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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oh i should add that he seemed to delay calling turn for abit
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Put him on something like 88 and figure out what bet size is going to get him to fold.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:37 PM #5 (permalink)  
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yea ur always beat here. btw std line on turn here is c/f obviously....

the only way u get a fold is to shove so if u think he can fold AJ KJ QJ JT then by all mean shove- just realize it has to work a lot of the time and u need to be able to play AA KK QQ this way also against any decent opp.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:23 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I agree with Sauce. If he paused before calling the turn bet and you think you can push him off his hand, you need to shove. In my experience a large value bet won't get him off his hand, since he made his decision to "go for it" on the turn.
Personally I c/f, but what the hell I'm a nit.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:19 PM #7 (permalink)  
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yea ur always beat here. btw std line on turn here is c/f obviously....
Agree totally but Ive got to second barrel some to, especially from UTG. I find im being floated alot nowadays so i need this move and I need to know more about opp's right?

results?? is this just a 2nd barrel that didnt work? SHoving river could work but is probably spew without better reads, amirite?
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Agree totally but Ive got to second barrel some to, especially from UTG. I find im being floated alot nowadays so i need this move and I need to know more about opp's right?
The other adjustment is to c-bet less OOP. Let the button floater have a couple empty pots, then nail him.
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Old 05-16-2007, 10:30 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Agree totally but Ive got to second barrel some to, especially from UTG. I find im being floated alot nowadays so i need this move and I need to know more about opp's right?
The other adjustment is to c-bet less OOP. Let the button floater have a couple empty pots, then nail him.
Agreed, I dont overdo the c/b actually. roughly 60/70% off the top of my head (not sure what are the stats for IP/OOP tho).

Ive become aware that when I check flops im not adding in a balance with good hands (even if a just do it a small % of the time). Its something i gotta look at but will improve my postflop skill since i gotta know how to exactly play them spots (havent a clue lol)
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better to DB with over tho
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:10 AM #11 (permalink)  
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better to DB with over tho
overcards? agreed since lower PP will probably float the most and we give ourself a better chance to win

Good discussion guys thx

Results...............

I checked and he checked KQ spades

I take it down. Nice for my very last hand of the session.
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