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acesfullokings
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09-01-2007, 10:51 AM
Post subject: 20NL QQ facing re raise
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Villian is unknown. What to do?
Noble Poker 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker
saw flop | saw showdown
Button ($18.83)
SB ($7.43)
BB Hero ($26.79)
UTG ($17.75)
UTG+1 ($9.63)
Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Q  Q 
UTG raises to 0.80, 2 folds, SB calls 0.70, Hero raises to 2.40, UTG raises to 4, 1 fold, Hero ????
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Pelion
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I probably call and play very carefully postflop. How does the game usually play? Is a 4bet usually AA/KK?
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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acesfullokings
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Originally Posted by Pelion
I probably call and play very carefully postflop. How does the game usually play? Is a 4bet usually AA/KK?
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I haven't really encountered many 4 bets at all since moving to iPoker so I can't really say. But his 4BB raise then his re raise seemed strong to me.
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I started a new job so don't play much ATM, just FTP mini grind
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biondino
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At this level he's got AA or KK. I honestl reckon you can fold here.
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bigspenda73
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I'd call and either c/f or b/f all low flops.
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bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by biondino
At this level he's got AA or KK. I honestl reckon you can fold here.
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you cannot fold here ever, sure you can fold the flop, but PF it's a minraise in an already multi-way pot with nice implied odds.
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acesfullokings
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by biondino
At this level he's got AA or KK. I honestl reckon you can fold here.
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you cannot fold here ever, sure you can fold the flop, but PF it's a minraise in an already multi-way pot with nice implied odds. |
I'm not sure the implied odds are so good here, the 3rd player has already folded by the time it gets to me, and I'm not getting 10-1 on his $1.60 raise so if I think he has KK+ then isn't this a fold?
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I started a new job so don't play much ATM, just FTP mini grind
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by acesfullokings
I'm not getting 10-1 on his $1.60 raise
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Yes you are.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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bigspenda73
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It's the fun world of NL hold thems and implied odds
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acesfullokings
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Originally Posted by Pelion
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Originally Posted by acesfullokings
I'm not getting 10-1 on his $1.60 raise
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Yes you are. |
You Sure?
He starts with $17.75, he raises to 0.8 => 16.95, then when he bumps it to $4 won't he only have 13.75 when 10-1 on $1.60 is $16?
Am I wrong with that math?
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euphoricism
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if you can *gaurantee* stacking him, you only need 8:1.
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acesfullokings
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
if you can *gaurantee* stacking him, you only need 8:1.
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I don't know enough about his play to guarantee it
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I started a new job so don't play much ATM, just FTP mini grind
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bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by acesfullokings
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Originally Posted by Pelion
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Originally Posted by acesfullokings
I'm not getting 10-1 on his $1.60 raise
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Yes you are. |
You Sure?
He starts with $17.75, he raises to 0.8 => 16.95, then when he bumps it to $4 won't he only have 13.75 when 10-1 on $1.60 is $16?
Am I wrong with that math? |
don't forget about all the money in the pot already
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