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d0zer
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07-03-2009, 03:09 PM
Post subject: 200NL: QJ flops FD. (3b games with regs)
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Villain is 35/27, 14% 3b. He'd been 3betting me from a variety of positions, this is the first time I've done anything but fold. I'm thinking maybe a 4b pre is better than trying to play QJs OOP.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG jakabjan ($145.75)
UTG+1 vicvicta ($40.45)
CO Hero ($318.95)
BTN csgreasy ($313.25)
SB AAindaBB ($186.00)
BB DAXA81 ($128.85)
Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is CO  
1 fold, vicvicta calls $2, Hero raises to $10, csgreasy raises to $30, 2 folds, vicvicta folds, Hero calls $20
Flop:    ($65, 2 players)
Hero checks, csgreasy bets $35, $35 to Hero ($288.95)?
I wanted to jam here, and it would be easier with 100BB effective, but with stacks a little deeper I'm not sure about the overbet shove here. Kinda worried that it'll get interpreted as a draw/bluff.
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nothing wrong with calling the flop
you always have the option of jamming the turn if he bets it
that way you can possibly make him fold higher flush draws on the turn because he can put you on 99+
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bspahn
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if you 4bet to 65-70 you can still fold to a shove pre and you have two elimination cards.
calling and playing this oop is very tough, you basically won't like anything except QJx, flopping flush or trips - what do you do against a lot of action on Jxx or Qxx flops?
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we're 150BB deep which means we're not looking to felt a Jx or Qx flop
we're looking for a flop like this one to raise
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bspahn
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if we raise here we're stacking off, and 150bb deep I don't think that's going to turn out all that well when we get it in... just don't like the spot overall. I'd much rather call a 3bet here oop with a hand like AT/AJ/AQ suited
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ATOTHEC101
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Full House
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4 betting pre is meh, calling is fine, as played just flatting the flop is the best play, if you raise your not exactly reppin very much are you, if he 'bluff jams' aq or something your gonna be left in a fairly terrible spot.
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"This sure beats Super Mario Bros.!" is my ejaculation catch phrase.
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well because if this increased the probability of a color are more or less acceptable
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Galapogos
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by jorgitoksa
well because if this increased the probability of a color are more or less acceptable
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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