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d0zer
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05-20-2009, 10:11 PM
Post subject: 200NL: KK vs c/c donk turn
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villain 36/16 over 25
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG Hero ($203.00)
UTG+1 Bidicha ($200.00)
CO ajfennewald ($241.75)
BTN magicjaybee ($235.60)
SB Mc.Fire ($388.55)
BB MrOnePutt ($204.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is UTG  
Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, Mc.Fire calls $7, 1 fold
Flop:    ($18, 2 players)
Mc.Fire checks, Hero bets $14, Mc.Fire calls $14
Turn:  ($46, 2 players)
Mc.Fire bets $25, $25 to Hero ($181)?
I think a raise is pretty standard here...kinda wondering how many FDs are actually in his range when he takes this line though. Seems more of a Tx line than a FD line. Even so I suppose there's a lot of rivers we don't like for a Tx hand.
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bjsaust
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More FDs than you'd think, in fact when he does this thats immediately what I assume a bad player has. Maybe something like 7 X
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Galapogos
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Definitely raise, it's possible he turned more equity and quite often he's just a tard with a pair of tens that will call.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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bspahn
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the assumption here is if you raise you are never ever folding.
the question is how much will he put in on a FD, or if he has Tx type hand. if i raise here i might make it a relatively small raise i think and mostly be looking to avoid the 3rd flush card on the river.
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griffey24
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$85 please...
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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XTR1000
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we´d never raise/fold?
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Originally Posted by bigred
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ATOTHEC101
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
we´d never raise/fold?
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No, we raise to call it off, folding would not be good.
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oskar
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
we´d never raise/fold?
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In my experience this is either Tx, idiotic floats, or a draw... sometimes bottom pair.
I'd make it 100, but I'd put more faith in griffeys bet sizing ability 
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by oskar
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
we´d never raise/fold?
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In my experience this is either Tx, idiotic floats, or a draw... sometimes bottom pair.
I'd make it 100, but I'd put more faith in griffeys bet sizing ability |
It's a close spot in terms of sizing. 100 isn't bad, but I think $85 gives him sooome semblance of fold equity, to ship his draw instead of just calling OOP or folding OOP.
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Originally Posted by Jay-Z
I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
we´d never raise/fold?
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why do we want to turn kings into a bluff?
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