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Old 01-22-2008, 07:50 PM     Post subject: 200NL kk deep #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is LAG playing 30/25/2.Never seen him play draws like this, hence why his AF only is 2.
Ive been playing really lag at another tale where he was sitting aswell, running 44/35 over 30 hands.
Im 175BB deep and villain has me covered.
He also was chatting after his shove, telling me he really got me now etc, i dont know how to percieve this, but he made it look like he wanted me to call.


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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K K
UTG folds, Hero raises to $8, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 8 J 5 ($18, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $38, Hero raises to $132, SB raises all-in $509.55
 
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I imagine it's better to call his raise than fold to his 4bet.
 
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:42 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I imagine it's better to call his raise than fold to his 4bet.
It's difficult to attempt to exercise pot control and go to showdown vs. a LAG on a wet board with scarecards on their way.
 
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Well sure it is, but it looks better than folding to a 4bet on a drawy board when really the only hands that beat us are 88 55 85s J8s.
 
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:45 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Well sure it is, but it looks better than folding to a 4bet on a drawy board when really the only hands that beat us are 88 55 85s J8s.
But we have a read that he doesn't play draws like this, and I doubt he's 4bet stacking off with AJ here, and I doubt he's smart/retarded enough to try to bluff us with a pair.

I think I could fold here and feel horribly dirty, although I'm yet to actually come to a conclusion.


I do agree with you though that not 3betting flop is best if we're put to a sick decision if he 4bets.
 
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:14 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I really don't like the 3-bet unless you're trying to get it all in. Call the c/r, you have position.


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Old 01-23-2008, 12:06 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Calling the flop is infinitely better than folding/3-bet folding and quite a bit better than raise/call a shove.
 
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:54 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I imagine it's better to call his raise than fold to his 4bet.
It's difficult to attempt to exercise pot control and go to showdown vs. a LAG on a wet board with scarecards on their way.
its a pretty drawy board and i doubt the only thing he is c/r are 2 pairs and sets. i think a 3 bet is fine here, and i think we are too committed to fold at this point. i probably play it the exact same way as villain with sick combo draw, and there are lots of combos for those.
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