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Old 07-31-2009, 06:13 AM     Post subject: 200nl Fold trips? #1 (permalink)  
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Not the most interesting hand but just need to u guys to confirm my thoughts.
Vill is relatively unknown, but seems on the fishy side. Haven't seen him do anything crazy...is this a simple flod?
Have him at 30/5/1 0%3b atm. after 30~~hands

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UTG showtime ($46.55)
UTG+1 d___Wesss ($91.15)
CO Hero ($203.00)
BTN blackize ($204.05)
SB Wesley Marks ($247.30)
BB _2_4_0_0 ($215.50)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, Wesley Marks calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($14, 2 players)
Wesley Marks checks, Hero bets $10, Wesley Marks raises to $20, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($54, 2 players)
Wesley Marks checks, Hero bets $38, Wesley Marks raises to $139, hero..
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:00 AM #2 (permalink)  
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fuck it, get it in on the flop
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:46 AM #3 (permalink)  
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30 hands? yeah, 3b flop/get it in.
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Old 08-01-2009, 02:32 AM #4 (permalink)  
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3b'ing this flop looks really strong though. I guess it prolly doesnt matter so much against a fish who prolly can't hand read so well i guess. But as played, whats our turn action.
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Board: Jd Qs Jh Kd

Hand 0: 36.519% { AsJc }
Hand 1: 63.481% { QQ+, AJs, KJs, QJs, JTs, AJo, KJo, QJo, JTo }

close, but get it in and hope he has something I didn't include like lol KQ or more likely J9o
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:53 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Calling flop is perfectly fine.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:49 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Not sure how many of you call/fold here But I folded here...and am unsure if it was O.k.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:24 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Think a fold is fine, I mean the only jack we beat really is J10.
Also I prefer a 3bet on the flop. How often does anybody call as a bluff? People nearly always flat with a jack there when raised.
3betting looks more bluffy than value IMO
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:20 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Think a fold is fine, I mean the only jack we beat really is J10.
Also I prefer a 3bet on the flop. How often does anybody call as a bluff? People nearly always flat with a jack there when raised.
3betting looks more bluffy than value IMO
Against a paranoid reg, then yeah I'd say 3 betting the flop id better because they would probably put a lot of air in your range, as they'd assume you pot control or slowplay everything.

By 3 betting the flop, how often do you think he is shoving over with his air, as opposed to attempting to barrel us off on the turn/river?

This guy hasnt got reg stats, so he probably has a lot of random suited J's in his range. I think his largish size raise leans me more towards not folding than if he had minraised or w/e.
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:39 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Think a fold is fine, I mean the only jack we beat really is J10.
Also I prefer a 3bet on the flop. How often does anybody call as a bluff? People nearly always flat with a jack there when raised.
3betting looks more bluffy than value IMO
Against a paranoid reg, then yeah I'd say 3 betting the flop id better because they would probably put a lot of air in your range, as they'd assume you pot control or slowplay everything.

By 3 betting the flop, how often do you think he is shoving over with his air, as opposed to attempting to barrel us off on the turn/river?
it's highly unlikely that the opponent is bluffing the flop, i think 3bet the flop is much better.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:06 AM #11 (permalink)  
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i agree with 3betting the flop. you're losing to QJ/QQ only here. a lot of fish like the minCR with under pairs, ace high or whatever in which case you're unlikely to get much more $$ on later streets so you might as well try to stack him when he has AA/KK/AQ/KJ/TJ/J9 etc etc since you're crushing those.
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