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Old 06-23-2009, 03:22 PM     Post subject: 200NL: AJo top pair #1 (permalink)  
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Villain 19/12 over 100 and hasn't been seen 3-betting yet.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG Azimut85 ($686.25)
UTG+1 Hero ($203.00)
CO funkeemonkee ($209.00)
BTN .TilTandWiN. ($200.00)
SB famou$_$oon ($673.40)
BB xavieret01 ($386.45)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, .TilTandWiN. calls $6, famou$_$oon calls $5, 1 fold

Flop: ($20, 3 players)
famou$_$oon checks, Hero bets $14, .TilTandWiN. calls $14, famou$_$oon folds

Turn: ($48, 2 players)
Hero bets $26, .TilTandWiN. calls $26

River: ($100, 2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#cc0000].TilTandWiN. bets $64 Hero .?


Seems like there aren't enough busted draws in his range to justify a call and he's never got a worse ace so...ez fold?

Thoughts on the turn bet / sizing?
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Old 06-23-2009, 04:40 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Whole hand looks fine to me, now fold.
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:10 PM #3 (permalink)  
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i b/f river against most, but this guys too tight. c/f all day.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:44 PM #4 (permalink)  
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who likes c/c turn?
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:25 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I don't expect people to float in 3 way pots, so we have to bet this turn to get value from weaker aces and draws.

Villain being 19/12 I'd fold expecting him to show up with AQ/AK or 2p. You beat 2 aces that would check behind, and busted flush draws... so the question is, how often is a 19/12 player flatting a flush draw for 2 streets and then bluffing the river when they whiff? Almost none, almost never. I fold
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shove.. he'll prolly fold AQ
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shove.. he'll prolly fold AQ
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so you think he doesn't have much Ax range OTB?
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:30 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I wouldn't mind seeing a aggression factor before I c/f here. Cause I think I always would call here if I checked. Usually its a bet though for me.
 
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:37 AM #9 (permalink)  
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He almost always has A-Q or some slow-played hand, but usually A-Q. Check-shoving may actually be best here, but I would probably just chicken out and check-fold.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:32 AM #10 (permalink)  
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just c/f
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:54 AM #11 (permalink)  
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shove.. he'll prolly fold AQ
My first thought
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:05 PM #12 (permalink)  
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i dunno if opps can fold to a c/r tho. i do like it tho
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shove.. he'll prolly fold AQ
My first thought

Can you explain? I'd be too worried about Ax range hitting 2p, he is OTB
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:11 AM #14 (permalink)  
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shove.. he'll prolly fold AQ
My first thought

Can you explain? I'd be too worried about Ax range hitting 2p, he is OTB
He's playing 19/12.... Therefore A9/A8/A6 are not in his flatting range.

Sure maybe you could say they are, but if they are its a small fraction of the time.

This added to the fact that your opponent is making a bet that looks like thin value.

Only question you end up asking yourself is, is villain bad enough to just be retarded and call off AQ anyways? I know I shove here and they call occasionally w/ it.
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