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Irisheyes
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11-06-2007, 09:31 PM
Post subject: 2 unusual plays on paired boards
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Hand 1)
100NL.
I'm in the BB with 66. Bad reg with 35/9/passive stats opens to $3.50 in the CO. SB calls and I call.
Flop is J J 2 Pot: $10
SB checks, I check, CO checks
Turn: 4
SB checks, I bet $8, CO calls, SB folds.
River: 9 Pot: $26
I bet $30.
Hand 2)
200NL, 215bb effective.
UTG limps, I make it $9 with 77, unknown CO calls, SB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: J 4J Pot: $38
Checks around to the button who bets $8. 2 folds and I call.
Turn: 6 Pot: $54
check, check
River: T Pot: $54
I check, he bets $10, I raise to $60.
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IowaSkinsFan
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hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot
hand 2: your ahead what are u doing
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sauce123
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot
hand 2: your ahead what are u doing
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Originally Posted by sauce123
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot
hand 2: your ahead what are u doing
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mixchange
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edit for post misread
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Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot
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Wait hold on, you think he call with worse? I doubt it.
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Ash256
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot
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Wait hold on, you think he call with worse? I doubt it. |
I thought you were doing thin value as well.
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Irisheyes
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I thought I was getting him off 77/88/TT. Am I crazy?
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Ash256
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If he thinks he's a reg he could well make some hero calls here with A high and better as long as you've been aggro IMO
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Originally Posted by mixchange
hand 2 - don't check a set on the turn unless you were raised on the flop when you led...then you can c/r all in.
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I think you're mix n' matching his hole cards. I'm thinking Arby's.
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hand 2 - don't check a set on the turn unless you were raised on the flop when you led...then you can c/r all in.
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I think you're mix n' matching his hole cards. I'm thinking Arby's. |
haha, yeah I messed up. I need the happy hand historys
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jackvance
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Hand 2.. I have the impression you're ahead, so I'd just call the minbetting.
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
I thought I was getting him off 77/88/TT. Am I crazy?
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Well it's a two way bet because he's rarely folding those hands anyways. And he'll yeah there's value people snap off any pair here all day.
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Originally Posted by Irisheyes
I thought I was getting him off 77/88/TT. Am I crazy?
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Well it's a two way bet because he's rarely folding those hands anyways. And he'll yeah there's value people snap off any pair here all day. |
Well besides the fact that his PFR is so low, I think he bets any 2 on the flop when checked to so they are pretty much out, so the only pairs I beat are 55/33. I cant see any way for him to hit the 4 so I don't think he can have any pairs that we can get value from.
The reason I overbet is because I think he folds 77 way more to a bet of $30 then to a bet of $20.
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Originally Posted by jackvance
Hand 2.. I have the impression you're ahead, so I'd just call the minbetting.
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If I raise I get the same value when ahead, plus sometimes I make him fold a better hand.
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i think in hand 1 ur ahead often, since he'd bet made hands on the flop, except Jx or maybe a big pair. imo even an over bet is sorta thin value vs ace high or random pair of 4s.
id bet the flop in hand 2 mostly for protection. as played, that bet could be any pair since i bet he puts u on AK. a bluff c/r is too thin imo, again i think its borderline for value. i just see ppl call too much on paired boards.
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I like hand 1, I think he folds better hands here sometimes and once in a blue moon you'll get looked up by worse. I think this kind of thing every once in a while is good.
Hand 2 is too thin imo.
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