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Old 12-22-2009, 10:24 AM     Post subject: 2 standard turn spots #1 (permalink)  
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hand 1
Not much seen of villain, he plays 30/19 over 20 hands or so and seemed to be opening too loose.
c/c > b/f > c/f ?

Calling a lot of rivers?

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MP ($48.50)
CO ($50.75)
Button ($69.80)
SB ($130.85)
Hero (BB) ($71)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
1 fold, MP bets $2, 3 folds, Hero raises to $7, MP calls $5

Flop: ($14.25) Q, 9, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP calls $7

Turn: ($28.25) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $15


hand 2
I always feel miserable in these spots. Villain is loose passive pre and bluffy post. 51/11/6.6 over 100hands.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, J
Hero bets $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) K, J, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button calls $3

Turn: ($10.75) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3.50, Hero folds
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand one what are you putting him on? His bet does not seem like a set... usually someone who is too loose pre will be more likely float a lot of those flops with low pockets, maybe ak, or j10/kj depending how loose he is pre since 20 hands isnt much of a sample... would he really smooth call KQ/AQ?.. maybe... anyways I b/f the turn and then c/c or c/f the river depending on bet sizing, tells, etc
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:58 PM #3 (permalink)  
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This is a reasonable loose range for hand 1 imo:
Quote:
Board: Qc 9d 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.692% 47.14% 00.56% 57398 677.00 { JhJs }
Hand 1: 52.308% 51.75% 00.56% 63018 677.00 { AA, QQ-66, 22, AQs, A9s, KTs+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 97s+, AQo, KTo+, QTo+ }
And a tight range:
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Board: Qc 9d 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.140% 41.56% 01.58% 14399 549.00 { JhJs }
Hand 1: 56.860% 55.28% 01.58% 19153 549.00 { JJ-99, AQs, KQs, QJs, J9s+, T9s, 98s, AQo }
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:57 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 - Vs someone splashing around and playing loose, I feel like 1/2 pot cbet is potentially going to get floated a lot and there's a couple of draws, so if I'm checking the turn it's to call, bring up any hands villain showed down or biggish pots he folded and check/decide a lot of rivers.

It feels marginal though and I don't think this is a terrible fold.

Hand 2 - It always sucks to fold to such small bets but it's hard to see what you beat, even if he doesn't have a K, a whole bunch of hands just drew out on you or made a higher pair/two pair. I'd have to consider villain seriously bluffy to call this and put myself in a lame spot on the river when he bets again cuz omgweshowedweakness!
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Old 12-22-2009, 08:09 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I'd call turn and fold the river in hand 1. Usually these people will just fire one then give up in a spot like this.

Hand 2 I would bet the flop sometimes and check it sometimes. If I'm betting I'd probably c/f that turn as played. Its a tough spot cause you didn't really give much info on his tendency's. How often does he just empty the clip when shown weakness, how easily he lets you get to showdown, how he reacts to cbets etc.



 
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