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Dragon Slayer
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02-17-2010, 07:56 PM
Post subject: 2 small pots from todays sesh
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Ok pretty boring hand Villian is 17/3 over like 44 HH. I belive this hand happened soon at the table so there might not have been stats to go on. Would you guys be ISOing this from an UTG limper?
I have a hard time putting these types of player on a range to L/C PF then MB flop with. Leading the flop is prob not gunna get called by worse. Feels kinda retarded to fold to $1.
***** Hand History for Game 39892110097 ***** (Poker Stars)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 17, 10:36:07 ET 2010
Table Iva III (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: W22P ( $50.85 USD )
Seat 2: Alex_Goose ( $24.25 USD )
Seat 3: 2203felix ( $64.30 USD )
Seat 4: xDragnSlayer ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 5: legrand11 ( $9.35 USD )
Seat 6: onca241 ( $48.00 USD )
xDragnSlayer posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
legrand11 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xDragnSlayer [ 9h 9c ]
onca241 calls [$0.50 USD]
W22P folds
Alex_Goose folds
2203felix folds
xDragnSlayer raises [$2.25 USD]
legrand11 folds
onca241 calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 4d, Js ]
xDragnSlayer checks
onca241 bets [$1.00 USD]
xDragnSlayer calls [$1.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
xDragnSlayer checks
onca241 checks
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
xDragnSlayer checks
onca241 bets [$3.00 USD]
xDragnSlayer ??????
Hand 2
Vil is 44/28 over 50 HH. Couple things. There was an OOP poster not sure why It didnt show up in the HH converter. So I should have prob gone 5x PF. I think I should have lead this flop, there is certainly worse hands in his range and we have good equity. As played maybe raise Turn?
***** Hand History for Game 39891825861 ***** (Poker Stars)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 17, 10:29:16 ET 2010
Table Iva III (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: W22P ( $39.80 USD )
Seat 2: jonay_yenei ( $16.35 USD )
Seat 3: 2203felix ( $59.25 USD )
Seat 4: xDragnSlayer ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 5: legrand11 ( $17.40 USD )
Seat 6: onca241 ( $49.25 USD )
W22P posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
jonay_yenei posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
legrand11 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xDragnSlayer [ Qd Kc ]
2203felix folds
xDragnSlayer raises [$2.00 USD]
legrand11 folds
onca241 folds
W22P calls [$1.75 USD]
jonay_yenei folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, Jc, 3d ]
W22P checks
xDragnSlayer checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
W22P bets [$3.50 USD]
xDragnSlayer calls [$3.50 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
W22P bets [$7.50 USD]
xDragnSlayer ?????
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Dragon Slayer
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Tried to work out a range for hand 2
Board: 3c Jc 3d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 63.683% 60.81% 02.88% 1582056 74808.00 { TT-22, AJs-A2s, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s, 32s, AQo-A9o, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 36.317% 33.44% 02.88% 870048 74808.00 { KQo }
By Turn with the Kd obiously Equity goes way up
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Carroters
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4-of-a-Kind
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1. Yeah I'm always isoing here preflop. This is so often air or a draw on the flop, but calling is still better than raising imo since draws will mostly have really good equity vs you and can 3 bet you off the hand. Also, a protion of the time he'll donk/call a J or Q here aswell.
I'd fold the river, not trusting this guy to fold tp and things to a raise. I doubt we have the equity to hero call vsa range of random aces, queens, and maybe jacks he doesn't know what to do with.
So yeah I think this is fine.
2. C bet the flop - his range is wide and full of shit that has just totally missed and we get to fold out A high. I'd probably raise this turn to get value from draws and worse kings. As played call the river, he can be betting worse kings, maybe a jack aswell as air a bunch of the time.
Ez hand imo.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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wtf converter/upgrade is making this impossible
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Numbr2intheWorld
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unconvert pre
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IowaSkinsFan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numbr2intheWorld
unconvert pre
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Unconvert pre>>>> Call >>>>> Shove
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Dragon Slayer
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Unconverted Pre
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shakesss
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In hand 1 c/c on the flop is ok , but its gonna be hard to play it outta position. I would check call with the intention of betting scare cards on the turn because his one dollar bet look so FOS. Ace would be a good card to bet turn and river. We can rep a lot of aces by check calling the flop. As played river is a fold.
Hand 2 i would def cbet flop and barrel through after spiking a King. As played its a call. I think you ended up inducing bluffs which might have worked out for you.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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if you fold you can't win
I'd call 1 b/c of pot odds and his flop bet feels like a draw and spades missed, I think PF/flop are fine and I'd c/f to a substantial flop bet.
2 I feel this one is closer due to the size of his bet and the fact that our hand is fairly face up, but getting 2.5:1 I feel comfortable calling here as well.
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meeloche
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Hand 1 played fine, river is pretty meh but calling isn't bad given he's a fish and the price he's laying you. I don't expect to be good that often though.
Hand 2 I Think raising the turn is good but as played call. I don't hate checking the flop since you didn't mention anything about him being super aggro your gonna be able to get to showdown a bunch and you likely have the best hand a lot. Plus keeping in all his QJ K10 etc can be valuable.
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eragotte
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ya hand 1 who cares really, its 3$ and not gonna effect your winrate much, pretty close id jus button mash based on my gut
hand 2 i think the flop check is good, this monkeys fold to cbet is prolly tiny, good call on turn, raising folds worse and calls better. the river is def def def not a fold. a call is good since he has lots of worse and barely any better, maybe A3 or something retarded. I might even click it back to milk him for another 7 bucks if hes bad enough.
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