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Old 06-05-2007, 01:52 AM     Post subject: 2 Pair, Very shitty spot #1 (permalink)  
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 Is this a a shitty a spot as I think it is, or is it time to bump the NITTTSSS thread again? Opponent seemed to be a bit weird.

iPoker 50NL with $55 stacks.

Dealer: Crowbar873 posts Small Blind $0.25
Dealer: R3sistance posts Big Blind $0.50
Dealer: Dealing cards
Dealer: Your cards

Dealer: leohansen calls $0.50
1 fold
Dealer: Crowbar873 calls $0.25
Dealer: R3sistance checks

Dealer: Dealing Flop

Dealer: Crowbar873 bets $1.50
Dealer: R3sistance raises $6
Dealer: leohansen folds
Dealer: Crowbar873 calls $4.50

Dealer: Dealing Turn
:Tc:
Dealer: Crowbar873 checks
Dealer: R3sistance bets $9
Dealer: Crowbar873 goes All-in $89.73

$40 to call.

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Old 06-05-2007, 03:06 AM #2 (permalink)  
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these hand histories suck. it always takes me a minute to figure out who hero is!

i think folding here is fine.
 
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:07 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Could be a lot of hands and if he is usually passive post flop I would fold. But I usually call in spot like this and then curse myself afterwards. But I enclose a sample of a hand I played last night. I called the turn push because I didn't think that a hand that is beating me would push the turn.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $32.05
CO: $40.45
Button: $68.55
SB: $33.20
Hero: $252.85

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with
UTG calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB folds, Hero (poster) checks.

Flop: ($4.5, 4 players)
Hero bets $3.5, 2 folds, Button calls.

Turn: ($11.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button raises all-in $64.05, Hero calls.

River: ($139.6, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $139.6)


Results:
Final pot: $139.6
Button shows AD AC
Hero shows 4H 6H
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stack sizes for hand 2 makes it a relatively easy call.
 
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:11 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 I feel like it s a 60/40 Fold/Call
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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I've seen this a couple of times in different threads, so I'll ask in this one.

Why do you play small suited gapped connectors, and then not play them when they hit? I get that theres aggression being shown, but surely playing these only become +EV by playing big pots when they hit? Am I missing something?

Yes this one only hit 2 pair, but thats fairly good for this hand.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:31 AM #7 (permalink)  
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given a limped pot, and no read villain overplays stuff, i think it's a thin call at best. set/97/57 all fit more than like 64. i'd prob fold it.
in a raised pot i would play for stacks though.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:50 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Why do you play small suited gapped connectors, and then not play them when they hit?
Because we're in the big blind? As it is 2 pair tends to be a medium but not huge pot sized hand in nitty 100+NL games. (Its probably better again in aggressive high stakes games).

In hand 1 Youve shown alot of strength (and you started in the BB so you could have any random 2 pair+). All you beat is a disgustingly slow played AA or a bluff that probably isnt comming too often and you are getting pretty poor odds. Fold.

Hand 2 is a pretty easy call given stack sizes. Theres lots of overpairs he could have and you can always suck out.
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:43 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 For the results oriented, I ran down my time halfway hovering over the fold button, but then thought like silu_nz and thought bigger hands would want to extract value a bit slower, then I hovered over the Fold button a bit more, then I thought "Fuck it, this is 50NL, FUCK YOU VILLAIN" and called.

Nice reading Pelion, he had the worst played KK ever.
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