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johnny_fish
Old 07-27-2006, 08:38 PM     Post subject: 2 line checks #1 (permalink)  
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I'm new to table, no reads at all.

******* Hand 1 ********

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1255.82
UTG+1: $991.66
Hero: $1043
Button: $220.25
SB: $458.50
BB: $914

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A K
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $55, 3 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: K 9 T ($135, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $90, UTG raises to $180, Hero calls.

Turn: 8 ($495, 2 players)
UTG bets $195.66, Hero calls.

River: K ($886.32, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero raises all-in $612.34, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: $2111


Villain is 29/15/2.8

******* Hand 2 ********

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Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $622.13
UTG+1: $345.39
CO: $1150.73
Button: $432.85
SB: $337.90
BB: $555.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $14, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 9 7 7 ($48, 3 players)
Hero bets $30, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $70, Hero calls.

Turn: J ($188, 2 players)
Hero bets $130, CO raises to $260, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $130 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $448
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:26 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: I don't think it's likely that any hand that beats you checks on the river, so I like it. Villain could have 2pr here or JT, trying to pick off a c-bet. In fact villain's entire line smacks of trying to put a move on you, then giving up on the river. I think the river check is rarely a trapping move.

Hand 2: This one's harder to decide. I think reads help a lot here, but against an unknown I think the fold is good. Villain could have a bare 9 on the flop, but I think the minraise on the turn is enough info to fold.
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Old 07-27-2006, 10:37 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Why not check the turn in hand two?
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:09 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1, nh.

Hand 2, I'd check the turn and either c/c or c/r ai depending on how much he bets.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:46 AM #5 (permalink)  
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hand 2) I c/c turn. aTheres no need to defend against draws by bettting the turn.
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:39 AM #6 (permalink)  
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i'm not sure about this hand 1...

without a read the preflop limp-call and the min. check-raise on the flop looks to me like a very strong hand - could be QJ, 99, TT or 910 but KQ is also possible.
with villains bet on turn i would exclude KQ from his possible holdings. he would have tried to take it down on the flop against a c-bet and check/fold the turn.
the check on the river could also be an attempt to check-raise all-in with a boat if he puts you on someting like TPGK.
so my line would be a call on the turn and check the river down. i don't like the river bet, because most of the time you get called, you will be beaten.

as i'm only playing 1-2, 2-4 NL 6max this hand could be way above my skill level and i'm very interested in your thoughts as you played the hand.

And most importand...
what was the result
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Old 07-29-2006, 01:12 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: TT. I felt beat after the flop c/minr but I couldn't fold Is the river push standard? I guess it is at lower levels..

Hand 2: Villain shows 55, strange bluff. Checking the turn is better I guess.
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:08 AM #8 (permalink)  
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sorry, but i cant find any sense in that river push on hand 1. could you please explain that play, i'm very interested!
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