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Old 03-25-2007, 11:14 PM     Post subject: 2 hands RR pot FTP #1 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1: Read: villain is 22/15 and is a chance he is RR me semi-light

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BTN: $18.50
SB: $100
BB: $72.1
UTG: $105.35
Hero (CO): $106.50

[color:black]Preflop:[/color] J J ($1.5, 5 players)
UTG folds, [color:red]Hero raises to $3.50[/color], BTN folds, [color:red]SB raises to $13[/color], BB folds, Hero calls $9.50

[color:black]Flop:[/color] Q Q 9 ($27, 2 players)
[color:red]SB bets $14[/color], Hero calls $14

[color:black]Turn:[/color] Q Q 9 [7] ($55, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero ...


Hand 2: No read on villain

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[color:black]Preflop:[/color] K A ($3, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP folds, [color:red]CO raises to $7[/color], BTN folds, SB folds, [color:red]Hero raises to $28[/color], CO calls $21

[color:black]Flop:[/color] T 9 A ($57, 2 players)
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 i bet 30 on hand 2 in hopes that it may induce a bluff.
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Old 03-26-2007, 07:33 PM #4 (permalink)  
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my first instinct in hand 1 was to check, since we have a mediocre hand with showdown value, BUT 1/2 the deck + A/K/T is scary.

Is betting this turn bad (20-40)? You might get a loose call from TT/88/AK, and deny AK a chance to out draw you. But getting raised is terrible, and you still have to sweat a club or spade on the river.

If you check behind turn, do you always call river?
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I don't mind checking on turn in hand one at all, but I like betting too b/c he's 1) afraid you have a Q and 2) if you do have a Q you don't want to give free cards so a Q would probably bet here.

Hand two -- I bet flop most of the time, if not all of the time. It's a reraised pot, you have TPTK. Call a shove and/or go broke with this hand from there...


 
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I don't mind checking on turn in hand one at all, but I like betting too b/c he's 1) afraid you have a Q and 2) if you do have a Q you don't want to give free cards so a Q would probably bet here.
I don't think we should turn our hand into a bluff when the only better hands we are bluffing out are AA or KK and i don't even know if this guy will fold them.
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 FWIW I'm calling any non-ace or king river in hand 1 was the plan.

Hand 2 I was going to go broke with regardless of the cards or action to come.


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Yeah, I don't like turning our hand (1) into a bluff... but I think it's a question of bluffing to stop a bluff. Ideally, you would know whether villain is a habitual bluffer (meaning you should check behind and call almost any river) or rarely bluffs in which case you want to bet to discourage even a rare bluff, then you can safely fold almost any river.

The other reason to check behind against an aggro villian is a c/r bluff is terrible for us as well.

It's also a value bet because some worse pairs + AK will call, then check a blank river.
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