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thizzSantaCruz

02-08-2008, 10:59 PM Post subject: 2 hands 300bb eff and im completely lost HELP! 1 bonus hand

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These are all from my operation thread which gets no traffic so I posted them here to. Some guidance here would be great, the first two hands I was really uncomfortable in.

#3 is a pretty easy bet/fold that I missed right?

Deep hand 1: Villain is bad, I have stacked him 3 times. He calls 3bets lite 100bb dee with AJo etc and stacked off with TPJK. He called a c/r AI in a pot I 3bet with a pocket pair when the flop had 2 higher cards. He also stacked with mid pair vs my set on a Q hi board. He was on tilt during this time and has seemed to get back together. He limps all small pairs. He is pretty passive. We have not gotten into it deep yet. Comments on all streets welcome especially the flop.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($21.65)
MP ($48.40)
CO ($141.10)
Hero ($291.25)
SB ($9.10)
BB ($146.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3

, A

.
2 folds, CO raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, CO calls $4.25.

Flop: ($12.75) 7

, 5

, K

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $8, CO raises to $25, Hero calls $17.

Turn: ($62.75) A

(2 players)
CO bets $42.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $62.75

Deep hand 2: Villain in this hand is also passive. Running 24/10/0.85 and he has been avoiding me mostly. I have been raising his blinds constantly throughout the session and he has rarely 3bet. Every time he has I have folded. Do I bet this flop? I checked it for pot control at the time, getting raised here really sucks but I rarely think villain is raising.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG ($21.65)
MP ($49.15)
CO ($140.35)
Hero ($278.65)
SB ($9.85)
BB ($159.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with

.
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, BB raises to $6.5, Hero calls $4.50.

Flop: ($12.50)

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($12.50)

(3 players)
BB bets $3.5, Hero calls $3.50.

River: ($19.50)

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $19.5

Hand 3: Do I bet/fold the turn here? Villain is same villain as above, this hand happened before the previous one.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

CO ($49.25)
Button ($50)
SB ($49.25)
Hero ($311.30)
UTG ($41.50)
MP ($94.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
UTG raises to $2, MP calls $2, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25)

(3 players)
Hero bets $4, UTG folds, MP calls $4.

Turn: ($14.25)

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $11, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $14.25

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will641

02-08-2008, 11:39 PM

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i think you played the deep hand fine.

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EzDuzIt

02-08-2008, 11:39 PM

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hand 1: i think folding sucks here. if your not comfortable playing this deep just leave the table.

hand 2: looks alright. you might be able to vb the river.

hand 3: b/f turn looks good.

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02-09-2008, 01:04 AM

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fold preflop in hand 2 and 3

just call in hand 1

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02-09-2008, 06:55 AM

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1) I don't really know what to do this deep

2) I always fold pf here, when a passive 3 bets he isn't 3 betting light and you are dominated here like 90% of the time.

3) I might just dump this pre, postflop seems ok to me.

bode

02-09-2008, 07:49 AM

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hand 1: gross spot. calling pre is definitly best here. As played i hate folding and I hate calling, but i really dont see what villain has here besides AA/KK/AK so i make a tight fold.

hand 2: fold pre. As played i value bet the river. Its thin but JJ/TT look you up here enough.

hand 3: fold pre also. No need to play suited gappers OOP.

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Genitruc

02-09-2008, 08:59 AM

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hand 1 shove or call turn doesn t matter but I'm never folding

hand 2 he has KK and KQ quite a bit so it's ok. There not much point to value-betting riv

hand 3 ya bet-fold is better imo

when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

Genitruc

02-09-2008, 09:01 AM

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just read replies and I disagree with some ppl : villain has AK almost never in hand 1 (if we have history and have been 3-betting he's 4-betting for value quite often here). also if he limps PP's he can't have 555 so his range becomes Kx, flushdraws and 777.

when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

Marshall28

02-09-2008, 10:06 AM

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im really only interested in the 1st hand, the others seem pretty standard.

1st hand ... snap jam turn vs tilty moron 300bb deep w/ tp + NFD. didnt you watch HSP, Doyle vs Laliberte?

like what the other dude said, if you aren't comfortable playing 300bb deep dont do it. you passed up on such a great opportunity where you are bound to have a lot of equity if you arent already ahead, which isnt too unlikely vs this type of player.

thizzSantaCruz

02-09-2008, 11:12 AM

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yea about this whole pass up on playing deep because im not comfortable....well the only way i can get comfortable is by playing deep. so im going to continue playing with deep stacks till i feel comfortable.

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thizzSantaCruz

02-09-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Marshall28

What do you think about the 3bet preflop Marshall? Is it better to call here, or do you think its really game flow dependant?

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