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Old 04-19-2007, 02:50 AM     Post subject: 2 big pots, overplayed? #1 (permalink)  
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just want to check if anyone plays differnt in these two hands...maybe i'm being too aggressive?

1- no special image, maybe tag. villain's stats are 50/15 over ~100 hands.

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $255.55
Hero: $247
CO: $203.60
Button: $468.80
SB: $694
BB: $425

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K J
UTG calls, Hero raises to $9, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: K 3 3 ($30, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $20, Button calls, UTG folds.

Turn: J ($70, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $50, Hero raises all-in $218


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Hero: $258.90
Button: $125.15
SB: $235.20
BB: $90.70

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $7, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: K Q T ($22, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, Button calls (quickly), BB raises all-in $83.7, Hero raises all-in $251.9, Button calls all-in $118.15.
Uncalled bets: $119.75 returned to Hero.
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Old 04-19-2007, 03:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Btoh hands are fine.

Hand 1: I like this because villain will pay you off with another King and sometimes a flushdraw.

Hand 2: I don't think you overplayed this. You never know with these 1/2 buy-in type players.
You could fold this against very passive players.
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Old 04-19-2007, 03:15 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 i think both are fine also. I hand 1, i would lean more towards just firing another barrel since villain is probly a station.

hand 2 is especially fine since both villains have only 1/2 a buyin.
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i sorta like c/r in hand 1 to punish a potential floater...
but i agree without that read just based off stats, firing the turn makes more sense.

what do you think if i bet 50 there instead and villain is the one that pushes?
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Old 04-19-2007, 03:37 AM #5 (permalink)  
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i like 1.

2 is ok, but if they were deeper I don't think I'd like it.
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 Hand 1 is fine Hand 2 i'd probably call but its close, problem is in these spots you don't know if theres really 4 aces left in the deck to count as outs. (I know you're not supposed to think about that when calculating outs but i like to in these spots) If it were deaper i might fold hand 2



 
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I know you're not supposed to think about that when calculating outs but i like to in these spots
What do you guys think about keeping this thought in mind when looking at outs?



 
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:27 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 I like both
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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