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| Irisheyes |
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UTG is 25/19/6.3. Generally he is overaggro and spewy. I stacked him once so far this session when he min-reraised my button open and I called with Q6s. Flop was 345r, bet/call. Turn 2 and he check/shoves with an ace. CO overcaller is a 61/0 passive fish but I only have 18 hands. SB is 23/17/3 decent TAG. Also a bit spewy though. He 3bets 8.5% of the time and squeezes 11%. $2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem 5 players Converted at weaktight.com Stacks: UTG ($936.00) CO ($317.85) BTN ($469.48) SB ($512.00) Hero ($946.40) [CO posted $5] Pre-flop: ($12.50, 5 players) Hero is BB   UTG raises to $17, CO calls $12, 1 fold, SB raises to $56, $51 to Hero ($941.4)? |
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| freechus9 |
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| Do you think Villain(s) will stack of with TPGK? Rather what are the chances that you'll both hit your TP and theyll have a lower kicker? I think in this spot I muck since AQo plays shitty multiway and we'll be playing for stacks. | ||||
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| griffey24 |
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Well this won't be much of a play along if you go by my line, but I just fold it. If the opener was button, then I'd imagine SB's 3-betting range would be wider. But SB popping UTG, means I give more credit to both the other hands out there. |
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| Deanglow |
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| very easy fold | ||||
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| mcatdog |
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| Just fold. $140 as a bluff is OK every once in a while but you better have the goods the vast majority of the time you do that. | ||||
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| Fnord |
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| I love what all the loose 3-betting is doing for people's ranges. | ||||
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| JL |
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If you happen to see a flop with UTG still in the hand, you are not going to be happy to get it in 200BB deep if you flop top pair. |
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| EzDuzIt |
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| fold. but im guessing you called so lets see the rest. | ||||
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| The Odds God |
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| super easy fold | ||||
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| IowaSkinsFan |
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| Deanglow |
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| let's see a flop then | ||||
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| Irisheyes |
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OK I'm a fish so I called. $2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem 5 players Converted at weaktight.com Stacks: UTG ($936.00) CO ($317.85) BTN ($469.48) SB ($512.00) Hero ($946.40) [CO posted $5] Pre-flop: ($12.50, 5 players) Hero is BB UTG raises to $17, CO calls $12, 1 fold, SB raises to $56, Hero calls $51, UTG calls $39, CO calls $39 Flop:    ($226.50, 4 players)SB checks, Hero ($890.4)? |
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| pocketfours |
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I srsly don't get preflop, people usually won't squeeze an UTG raiser, especially OOP. Flop seems like a pretty easy b/f. They will put you on AA/KK pretty much. |
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| Irisheyes |
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OK well I'll try and put together an argument for not folding pf just to play devils advocate. 1) We're 5 handed so UTG is actually MP 2) He squeezes 11% of the time. That's a lot. I'm not sure exactly how that stat is derived but I know that AQo is ahead of a range comprised of the top 11% of hands. Polarise that range and we're probably ahead even more. 3) The UTG/MP opener is loose. Lots of the other regs I play with are nittish. To get your squeeze % up as high as 11% means that when you get a chance to squeeze a loose guy you have to take it a lot. 4) We have position on the squeezer 5) The UTG/MP opener will most likely fold when he sees a 3bet and cold-call in front of him because decent players cold calling 3bets looks pretty strong. 6) The other player in the pot is a fish. |
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| Irisheyes |
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| 7) The dead money posted should increase the UTG's raising range which in turn should increase the SB's squeezing range. | ||||
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| minSim |
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Some nice arguments for calling. But do they really weigh against; 1. RIO of your hand, especially this deep 2. The times you're gonna lose the battle of missed flops 3. You folding against an UTG's 4bet I'm far from as good a player as you are, but I just tend to stay away from these likely very hard and marginal postflop situations. |
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| Irisheyes |
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1) The player I'm deep with hasn't acted yet so this might not be a problem. Infact it wont be the majority of the time because he opens so loose preflop and (it's only right to assume) folds most of his opening range to a 3bet and cold-call before him. You're right thought that the times he does call the hand will be difficult. 2) I don't mind battling over missed flops HU with the squeezer that much. If other people come along then everyone has to play honestly. 3) Yep this is a problem. I'm not really trying to convince people that this is a good play but I really don't think it's as clear cut lolomgterrible as everyone seems to think. |
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| Irisheyes |
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Ok in the interests of squeezing the last few drops of advice from this thread, I give you the turn. $2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem 5 players Converted at weaktight.com Stacks: UTG ($936.00) CO ($317.85) BTN ($469.48) SB ($512.00) Hero ($946.40) [CO posted $5] Pre-flop: ($12.50, 5 players) Hero is BB UTG raises to $17, CO calls $12, 1 fold, SB raises to $56, Hero calls $51, UTG calls $39, CO calls $39 Flop: ($226.50, 4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $160, UTG calls $160, 1 fold, SB folds Turn:  ($546.50, 2 players)Hero ($730.4)? |
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| griffey24 |
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wow this is a super weird spot. I can't even imagine what he would c/c with other than JJs. Maybe even AsQ would c/c here, either that or he has the nuts. I'd check through and probably fold to a river lead on all rivers. Whatever he's pot controlling on the flop, I doubt he's turning into a bluff on the river. I wanna get to showdown now. |
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| Numbr2intheWorld |
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| Irish- UTG has way to good of a bluffing opportunity when you flat you must fold preflop. Since you didn't, i'll talk about postflop. I expect him to also have AQ a majority of the time taking that line. I really feel like you can just shove the turn here and hell if he had KQ he may even fold it. | ||||
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| griffey24 |
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(edit: I had my previous response wrong, cause I thought it was SB who c/c'd and continued with the hand, and not UTG who just called in position) Quote:
So whatever his range is, he has some hand that's not afraid of a spade peeling off. So AsAs, AsQ (freerolled), AsJs, AsA, KsK, KsQ, JsJ or maybe TsT. I just feel like the range we beat here is rarely rarely calling our shove. Even IF he had flatted AsK or AKs, that hand got there now as well. |
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