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Old 08-02-2009, 01:20 AM     Post subject: 2/4 vs super agro opponent #1 (permalink)  
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Okay so this was very early in the match, maybe the first 15 hands, villain had already 3bet me 40% of the time and had played every hand very aggressively. Basically he bet or raised every time it was his turn.

Questions on turn and river. What do you guys think of his turn sizing? Should that tell me anything about his river intentions? If I call turn do I have to call river? Really felt unsure...

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Old 08-02-2009, 04:28 AM #2 (permalink)  
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his turn bet sizing is actually pretty big because I'd make it $101 with most of my hands for a similarly sized river shove because right now there's like no money behind on the river
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Unlike IOPQ I'll actually try and give advice.

Your hand is extremely face up at this point so you're representing exactly what you have. This turn + river connect a lot of two pairs for suited connectors that he could be RR you light with. You should probably think about what you would do with your entire range in this spot to answer your question.

How are you playing A2-AT (if you ever get this far)?
Gutshots?
Combo draws?
Pair + FD?
Sets?

I'm putting MPGK on the turn in between Gutshots (a fold) and pair + FD (a call, possibly if we dont get it in on flop) so I'm probably just folding the turn. Another reason would be is that we're expecting our opponent to shove the river with all of his Ax hands and some of his bluffs but rarely any jacks that we beat. Folding the turn could save us from making a big mistake on the river (either calling or folding).

Also, 40% through 15 hands is like 2/7 or 3/8 in terms of frequency and there aren't many reads to be had from this. With no other reads on barreling frequency or 3bet style I think its a fold, and probably on the turn.


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Old 08-03-2009, 04:23 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Early on I fold the turn as well. At this point you are essentially guessing and its highly likely he ships every river. As Elipses Jeff said, its only been 15 hands so he could be catching legit 3bettign hands perhaps, too small a sample to know anything. Also if you think he is actually 3bettign a huge amount he's probably 3 betting most of his AX hands.

And I love playing against these guys if they can't/won't adjust. Take a note and see if this is his style or an aberration.
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usually what i do and in freerolls as i usually dont play to many ''real money games'' especially at start many people are very agressive, so i usually call a couple place some smaller bets to not look like your waiting for a great hand and and give them the idea u could be bluffing, so when i catch one i try and let them lead the betting, and catch them that way. though im no expert...
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Old 08-14-2009, 03:53 AM #6 (permalink)  
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usually what i do and in freerolls as i usually dont play to many ''real money games'' especially at start many people are very agressive, so i usually call a couple place some smaller bets to not look like your waiting for a great hand and and give them the idea u could be bluffing, so when i catch one i try and let them lead the betting, and catch them that way. though im no expert...
agreed
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Old 08-28-2009, 09:21 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 One thing about the turn sizing is he doesn't commit himself if he had a FD on oesd or combo. Against a player like this i would assume this means he doesn't have one, i would just fold.
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