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11-14-2008, 06:29 PM
Post subject: 2/4 - TT oop vs. 3bet, 145bb deep
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Villain is a solid regular, one of the better, less spewy ones at 2/4 imo. Runs 21/17/4, 3bets 6% over a ton of hands. We have a lot of history... he probably views me as laggy and maybe spewy, he generally plays solid and aggressive and doesn't spew much. Play and plan?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (CO) ($580.80)
Button ($800.20)
SB ($165.25)
BB ($590.85)
UTG ($85)
MP ($583)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 10 , 10
2 folds, Hero raises to $14, Button raises to $48, 2 folds, Hero calls $34
Flop: ($102) 9 , 6, 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks
Turn: ($102) 9 (2 players)
Hero...
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a500lbgorilla
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does he tend to play straight forward in 3 bet pots with you?
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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griffey24
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Soooo many draws, I'd lead this turn. If river bricks, I'll probably c/c.
If he raises... hate life... call and re-evalute I guess.
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zook
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
does he tend to play straight forward in 3 bet pots with you?
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Dunno. I think the flop check makes JJ+ and broadway hearts very unlikely but not utterly impossible.
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a500lbgorilla
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Originally Posted by griffey24
Soooo many draws, I'd lead this turn. If river bricks, I'll probably c/c.
If he raises... hate life... call and re-evalute I guess.
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I would fold if he raises the turn. But that's assuming he'll raise with the intention of barreling most rivers.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
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Originally Posted by griffey24
Soooo many draws, I'd lead this turn. If river bricks, I'll probably c/c.
If he raises... hate life... call and re-evalute I guess.
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I would fold if he raises the turn. But that's assuming he'll raise with the intention of barreling most rivers. |
If he checks the flop (prob won't check with a set on this drawy board,given how draw heavy), and then raises this turn he's repping SUCH a narrow range (only 9x), that I'm not sure we can just fold outright.
I guess if he'd check back 78 on this flop, folding to a raise is closer.
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a500lbgorilla
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I'm assuming you'd call and check to him on the river. What are you looking for to make a river check-call? Otherwise, are you just hoping for check/check?
I just think it's a bad spot to bluff and he's got to expect us to atleast call his turn raise so he's either banking on a river shove to move us off or banking on the fact that we aren't going to want to fold on most rivers.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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gametight
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I like leading for ~$64 to protect. I also dont think he's raising this turn very often.
If he calls play poker on the river imo.
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IowaSkinsFan
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I'd totally just turn my hand into a bluff here, 100 on turn and a lot on river.
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Irisheyes
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I'm guessing he has some sort of weak SD value so I VB/fold the turn and river.
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a500lbgorilla
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buncha nits ITT
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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nutsinho
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i would bet 58 and valuebet the river folding to a raise anywhere
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griffey24
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3-bet
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hmm well one word answers aren't usually that helpful. Especially when the one word used, doesn't really make sense in the context of the hand.
hero can't 3bet...
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Da GOAT
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i agree with betting turn and river. folding to any raise would be fine and id figure if he wanted to bluff he wud just make a cbet instead of a fancy play.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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a500lbgorilla
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Originally Posted by franco.c1976
3-bet
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hmm well one word answers aren't usually that helpful. Especially when the one word used, doesn't really make sense in the context of the hand.
hero can't 3bet... |
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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bode
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
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Originally Posted by griffey24
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Originally Posted by franco.c1976
3-bet
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hmm well one word answers aren't usually that helpful. Especially when the one word used, doesn't really make sense in the context of the hand.
hero can't 3bet... |
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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meetfdc
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i would bet on the turn
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Da GOAT
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omg lynch meetfdc
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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