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pocketfours
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04-03-2010, 04:38 AM
Post subject: 2/4: trips face river overbet shove
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168BB deep. Villain is a 26/20/9% good lag reg (taiwan). Plays many tables.
Happy snap call?
CO ($1085.30)
Hero (Button) ($672.70)
SB ($402)
BB ($838.70)
UTG ($535)
MP ($421)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 5 , 6
3 folds, Hero bets $8, 1 fold, BB raises to $30, Hero calls $22
Flop: ($62) A , 5, 7 (2 players)
BB bets $40, Hero calls $40
Turn: ($142) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $115, Hero calls $115
River: ($372) J (2 players)
BB bets $653.70 (All-In), $487.70 for hero to call...
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IowaSkinsFan
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ummmm absolutely snap call
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gabe
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yea id call. hard for him to want to play AA like this when its so hard for him to stack your range with only 1 A left
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pocketfours
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So we call with ATo as well? That hand even has a blocker.
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Ravageur
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are you suggesting that our hand = A10o here? Don't really get that since this is AK/AJ/A7s a lot which beat a bluffcatcher.
Folding is insane, not that I should talk. This is reminiscent of my nut flush nitroll that nutsinho called me out on.
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pocketfours
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Just wondering if my hand is a bluff catcher.
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gabe
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ppl play AK like this to get paid by AQ
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ya hes gonna have 77 some but you win a lot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
ummmm absolutely snap call
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
ppl play AK like this to get paid by AQ
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People play AK like this to get called by AQ, potentially play a lot of Ax like this to get ppl off of chops, not to mention people play AJ like this always as well.
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pocketfours
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I didn't even consider folding at the time, but I have to say I wasn't happy when he shoved. He had T9o for a complete airball. I guess it's reasonable that he could do this with AK, especially if he plays air like this frequently.
Without history I don't think I would bluff like this myself on this board though.
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Ravageur
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really? (regarding not bluffing here). Seems like this kind of board is pretty butter to 3-barrel simply because of ISF theorum caus typically you can only have 77/AQ/AJ in terms of being nutted on the river. Then we can get into the levelling game but it usually doesn't get past this first level.
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Family Cruise IMO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ravageur
really? (regarding not bluffing here). Seems like this kind of board is pretty butter to 3-barrel simply because of ISF theorum caus typically you can only have 77/AQ/AJ in terms of being nutted on the river. Then we can get into the levelling game but it usually doesn't get past this first level.
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Yeah, look at flop SPR. It's huge because of preflop sizings and stacks. I would def not go BBS here with air before I would have clearly established that I'm doing that with AQ as well.
If I think he reps 77/AA then I can just snap it off with TJss and show huge profit (so he shouldn't bluff here if that's how he expects me to assess his range).
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Against some players, like me for instance, you could probably call down JTss here and be good a fairly high % of the time, you kind of have to make that read on the flop though if you are going to call three, and if you are going to call three and have JTss, you probably need to be shoving the turn.
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Marshall28
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And AK has about no reason not to value 3 streets here. So no I don't think your hand is a bluff catcher.
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