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zook
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03-02-2009, 04:32 AM
Post subject: 2/4 - tpgk on monotone flop 250bb deep
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4-of-a-Kind
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Villain is one of the toughest regs to play against imo. He runs 30/22/2.4, 3bets 9.5%, folds to cbets 50%. Capable of moves but I wouldn't call him spewy. We've battled a fair amount and he's mostly gotten the better of me. He might think I'm a bit spewy and a bit stationy.
The CO posted behind me which is why I raised to $20 pre.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
BB ($532.70)
UTG ($913.90)
Hero (MP) ($1049.70)
CO ($400)
Button ($1033.30)
SB ($830)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A , Q
1 fold, Hero bets $20, 1 fold, Button calls $20, 2 folds
Flop: ($50) A , 5, K (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button calls $40
Turn: ($130) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $90, Button raises to $285, Hero...
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Fold. OOP you can expect a big bet from a polarized range on the river. As you describe it he wont be bluffing enough to make this worth continuing.
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meeloche
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I would fold since it's a terrible spot to be bluffing and I'm not happy felting here this deep. I don't really see any other option since you're also oop. I've never seen anybody on take this line with air and it's pretty uncommon in general for me, I dunno how the games on tilt play though.
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zook
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by meeloche
I would fold since it's a terrible spot to be bluffing
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I disagree. What hands is hero happy stacking with here 250bb deep?
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meeloche
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Well you've doubled on a bad card to double so you're showing a ton of strength, it is also a board that hits your range pretty hard. Second if he is bluffing he has to risk a bunch of money for $180 when your not gonna be folding as often as you would in other spots.
I don't really know how you play though and the dynamic that you guys may have. I would have to guess though if this guy has a clue he's not gonna try to pull a move in a spot like this where you are going to be questioning his line when he thinks you're stationy/spewy. You'd have to be a bunch of levels deep for this to be a good bluff.
This is also probably the close to the bottom of your value range I would think so folding here can't be that bad.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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I mean maybe this would be an ok bluff (maybe) but i doubt he's doing it. You have so many stronger hands in your range anyway, give this one up.
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w272727
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03-03-2009, 11:50 AM
Post subject: Re: 2/4 - tpgk on monotone flop 250bb deep
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by zook
Villain is one of the toughest regs to play against imo. He runs 30/22/2.4, 3bets 9.5%, folds to cbets 50%. Capable of moves but I wouldn't call him spewy. We've battled a fair amount and he's mostly gotten the better of me. He might think I'm a bit spewy and a bit stationy.
The CO posted behind me which is why I raised to $20 pre.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
BB ($532.70)
UTG ($913.90)
Hero (MP) ($1049.70)
CO ($400)
Button ($1033.30)
SB ($830)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A , Q
1 fold, Hero bets $20, 1 fold, Button calls $20, 2 folds
Flop: ($50) A , 5 , K (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button calls $40
Turn: ($130) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $90, Button raises to $285, Hero... |
With big stacks he can loosen his calling ranges alot and it can still be profitable for him...20$ when he can stack you off with TPGK...I dont think TPGK is enough to stack off with him, its really the flushes and the sets you want to do it with..which is what i think he had...44 or 55..maybe and possibly even a flush..if i was him i would have called the flop and reraised on the turn as he did..so i wouldnt be suprised if he had you.....though if this guy is good he may be a few levels ahead, and being in position may not be bad a bad spot to bluff..tho in general i dont think it was a bad fold.
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