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Old 03-14-2010, 12:27 PM     Post subject: 2/4: top set against passive villain #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is passive 23/18/1.5 with 11% 3bet and 42% cbet over 700 hands. Thoughts on flop and turn sizing? River action?


MP ($400)
CO ($460.30)
Hero (Button) ($822.90)
SB ($495.45)
BB ($1408.10)
UTG ($605.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A
3 folds, Hero bets $8, SB raises to $32, 1 fold, Hero calls $24

Flop: ($68) A, 5, K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $32, SB calls $32

Turn: ($132) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $80, SB calls $80

River: ($292) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero? ($351 behind)
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:22 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I like flop sizing. On the turn I think we can go $100, since he has lots of pair+draws or even like KJ or something.

River I'd prob go 140/fold vs a passive player.
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Old 03-15-2010, 11:08 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I don't see the merits of taking the trapping line pre against a passive villain really.
Especially when I'm assuming you have an aggressive image (which of course might not be the case in this particular hand)

I would also bet bigger on the flop as I think it doesn't change villains c/c-ing range much. I even think it's generally more bluffy.
I do think it's important to either make a larger flop or turn bet to leave less than a PSB on the river. You have a pretty weird stacksize left now.

I'd still shove river for the few hero calls you might get. I don't see how we're ever behind on the river as I expect even a somewhat passive villain to cbet a FD on a perfect flop like this most of the time.
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:08 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Pre-flop flat-call is interesting and tricky; I have no problem with that, but your bet-sizing is horrible on the flop and turn. Need to bet enough to make a river all-in not an overbet and you came up way short of that. Try $50 on the flop and $120 on the turn and then the river is an easy all-in. When he called on that flop, he obviously had something, so bang him hard on the turn and river. You need to look at stack sizes every round and bet accordingly. If he has nothing, he's folding regardless, so bet like he has something.
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