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Old 03-13-2010, 05:11 PM     Post subject: 2/4: strange squeeze spot #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain is L. Chan female FTP red pro. First we play this hand:

UTG ($400)
MP ($406)
Button ($400)
SB ($454.50)
Hero (BB) ($400)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, J
2 folds, Button bets $8, SB calls $6, Hero raises to $40, 1 fold, SB calls $32

Flop: ($88) J, 9, A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($88) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($88) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $88 | Rake: $3
Results:
SB had 5, 5 (two pair, nines and fives).
Hero had Q, J (two pair, Jacks and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $85


I can't believe she called pre with 55 but whatever. Now the very next orbit she TANKS HER ENTIRE TIMEBANK before flatting the BU open! WTF??

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UTG ($406)
MP ($400)
CO ($419.50)
Button ($402)
SB ($410.50)
Hero (BB) ($449)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, 2
3 folds, Button bets $8, SB calls $6, Hero raises to $40, 1 fold, SB calls $32

Flop: ($88) 5, 3, 8 (2 players)
SB bets $32, Hero raises to $72...

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Old 03-13-2010, 06:15 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Id rather had some sort of equity, but with #1 telling her you like 3betting and taking medium strong hands rather cheaply to SD I doubt she´s bet/folding a lot here anyway.
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Old 03-13-2010, 07:40 PM #3 (permalink)  
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She's lolbad. Hand 2 is spew on both streets.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:17 PM #4 (permalink)  
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She's lolbad. Hand 2 is spew on both streets.
Yeah. Do you think she's getting fed up with your squeezing? Cuz it seems like she's just going to keep calling until she thinks she can take a pot off you, and if she led at this board I'd rather have more equity because I doubt she's folding often now.

If she did fold it's hilarious.
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:45 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 I think it's pretty clear from hand 1 that villain isn't the type that will fold to any squeeze, so I'd rather squeeze again with a hand that can at least flop well (connected or suited or something)
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:20 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 If she thinks I'm light then why would she lead? Why does she tank pre? Hand 1 was my first hand at the table, although I remember playing with her once or twice before.
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What kind of maniac are you? It's one thing to exploit weakness, it's another to just be stupid. Perhaps, that is how to exploit you? Your style is incredibly exploitable by just playing straightforward TAG poker. If I raise in a game with you and get reraised big on a 3-bet, I'm just going to check and call you and let you donk off your entire stack. It sounds like you are very easy to trap. I'm sorry to be insulting, but where's your patience at the table? Just fold your 10-2o and wait for the next hand. Even Doyle Brunson says that although he won two tourneys playing 10-2 on the final hand, that hand has cost him way more than those victories because of his superstition with it.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:08 PM #8 (permalink)  
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What kind of maniac are you? It's one thing to exploit weakness, it's another to just be stupid. Perhaps, that is how to exploit you? Your style is incredibly exploitable by just playing straightforward TAG poker. If I raise in a game with you and get reraised big on a 3-bet, I'm just going to check and call you and let you donk off your entire stack. It sounds like you are very easy to trap. I'm sorry to be insulting, but where's your patience at the table? Just fold your 10-2o and wait for the next hand. Even Doyle Brunson says that although he won two tourneys playing 10-2 on the final hand, that hand has cost him way more than those victories because of his superstition with it.
This you Lynette? If my play has offended you in any way then I apologize. I still have to argue that I played this hand a lot better than you did.
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If she thinks I'm light then why would she lead? Why does she tank pre? Hand 1 was my first hand at the table, although I remember playing with her once or twice before.
There's thinking you are light and will put more money in before folding, and there's thinking you are light and likely to give up vs immediate action. The latter sounds more likely from a not very good player or someone not thinking much.

As for the tank pre, it doesn't make sense with a weak hand or a strong hand, so your guess is as good as any.
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 lol red pros

she's probably just leading because she has a hand and wants to get value. clearly she isn't thinking on much of a level at all other than what she has.
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lol red pros

she's probably just leading because she has a hand and wants to get value. clearly she isn't thinking on much of a level at all other than what she has.
She's a 1.3 PTBB/100 winner at 2/4 (120k sample) and 2.41 PTBB/100 winner at 1/2 (220k sample). She plays 26/20/2.5 with 10% 3bet (small sample). She is a perfectly decent thinking player.

I think she is leading this flop because it's the only way she can win. She isn't the type to b/3b her draws here and she isn't a station either.
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