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zook
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07-07-2008, 10:53 PM
Post subject: 2/4 - QQ pre vs. strange player - deepish
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4-of-a-Kind
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BB is 28/20/1.7 and playing on 4 tables. I'm on two of them, the other one he's directly on my left. He plays strangely, but I haven't seen him do anything super fishy. He raises small amounts a lot, to $9 sometimes, to $10 or $11 sometimes and almost always folds to my 3bets. Out of ~15 times I've 3bet him, he's called once (and folded to my cbet) and 4bet once (I folded). On the other table he's called my pre-flop raises a few times, and either folded to cbets or second barrels. A few hands ago he limp/re-raised the button(!) and I folded from the sb.
Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
BTN: $810.70
SB: $150
BB: $1,026.90
Hero (UTG): $571
MP: $1,038.20
CO: $400
Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, BTN calls $14, SB folds, BB raises to $39, Hero raises to $110, BTN folds, BB raises to $254, Hero...
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Fnord
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Does he 3-bet often or just like to take flops?
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zook
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In position he seems to take flops. I've seen him 3bet from the blinds a couple of times I think, but not enough that I've labeled him a light 3bettor. Nothing shown down after 3betting that I remember.
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Fnord
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Looks like Aces to me. Still, I wouldn't feel too bad about dropping a stack to him here.
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bjsaust
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Is this a spot where his squeeze is so obvious that your 4-bet looks light?
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Just playing to improve.
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zook
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Normally this is an easy felt for me. What set off alarm bells were... a) I'm 140bb deep, b) I'm utg, and c) this guy seems generally weak/tight.
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Genitruc
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sounds like you answered your own question?
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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zook
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
sounds like you answered your own question?
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Yeah. I folded, but it felt icky.
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nutsinho
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id probably never 4bet pre in this spot. his initial squeeze size is so small and he's OOP and you are so deep. looks like the donked up nuts.
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BankItDrew
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Call and outplay villain postflop.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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With a player like this a "squeeze" is probably gonna be stronger and not weaker
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silu73
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As played I would fold as well but 4-betting pre would not be standard for me in position.
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Deanglow
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Def don't 4bet pre without history that you can felt.
Call with a wide range and QQ here pre.
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