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Old 07-07-2009, 03:36 AM     Post subject: 2/4 QQ oop Axx flop #1 (permalink)  
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opp: 45/19/2.5 over 650 hands

Flops sucks as usual, so it's not easy to play.
Easy choice is to check/fold, which I would do if his AF was around 1 or less, that's not the case.

Bet sizing always seems to confuse the crap out of me, when is small weak and when is it strong, when is an insta pot weak or strong... I don't know what it means from this player.

Do we lead here because there's some draws, in which case what sort of hands is he calling $38 with pre? If we cbet and he calls, do we c/f to a turn diamond and keep barreling say 1/3 to 1/2 pot if it's a blank?

If we check, do we call once and then fold? I just know that a lot of players at 1/2 or 2/4 will often barrel but generally don't have the guts to do it on the river as well... so i called twice and obv got owned.

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG Charlotte83 ($438.10)
UTG+1 dreamer_ ($50.00)
CO rolle111 ($212.00)
BTN glmdmk ($394.00)
SB Papanato ($152.20)
BB Hero ($489.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 6 players) Hero is BB
2 folds, rolle111 raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $38, rolle111 calls $30

Flop: ($78, 2 players)
Hero checks, rolle111 bets $28, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($134, 2 players)
Hero checks, rolle111 bets $38, Hero calls $38

River: ($210, 2 players)
Hero checks, rolle111 checks

Final Pot: $210
Hero shows:
rolle111 shows:

rolle111 wins $207 ( won +$103 )
Hero lost -$104
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Renton
Old 07-07-2009, 03:59 AM #2 (permalink)  
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i see no real reason to overbet the pot pre vs a 50bber, 28-32 should suffice.

I would bet the flop vs a donk like this, as played your line is fine. You can't fold to that small of a bet on turn, imo. I would fold if he bet like 52 or more.
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Old 07-07-2009, 01:18 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I dont see a problem with your play here. If it wasnt a fish I may have popped him on the turn when he leads weak, but theres no way this fish is going to lay that down.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:50 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Bet flop, as played I fold turn, his bet looks like ax. Also would have been better if you didn't post results.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:09 PM #5 (permalink)  
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if you bet flop here, do you barrel the turn as long as it is NOT a diamond? if you barrel do you like around 1/3 pot (get some value from hands you beat and its still hard for Ax to raise the turn)
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