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DaNutsInYoEye
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07-27-2006, 08:52 PM
Post subject: 2/4 6-max hand
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4-of-a-Kind
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What is your river line and why?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($400)
UTG ($227)
MP ($326.45)
CO ($152)
Button ($96.35)
SB ($571.80)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 , 2 .
UTG calls $4, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: ($20) 2, 3 , 7 (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, UTG folds, MP calls $16, CO folds, SB folds.
Turn: ($52) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $32, MP calls $32.
River: ($116) 7 (2 players)
Hero?
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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LimpinAintEZ
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check/fold - the 7 ruined your hand - you should send a blocking bet, since its easy to think he was calling you with a flush draw -
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johnny_fish
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C/c to catch missed FD bluff. C/f if the bet is large and/or Villain is passive.
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dsaxton
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Probably check-fold unless opponent is bluff-happy. Most players would wuss out when faced with this bluffing opportunity, since it looks like you're trying to induce a bluff.
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gabe
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check call a large bet usually, fold to a small one
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LimpinAintEZ
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Flush
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by gabe
check call a large bet usually, fold to a small one
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i don't want to increase your WPP or anything, but can you explain this just a bit Gabe? I would appreciate it - I basically think you mean a large bet is most likely a bluff and a small one is going to be a value bet - but in this case, do we really want to try and pick off a bluff? All we beat is AK....
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bdawg56kg
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Who is villian? I'd definitely check and re-evaluate based on how much he bets and his timing. Also, bet more on the turn.
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jacbmw
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we also beat all missed FD's...
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gabe
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by LimpinAintEZ
i don't want to increase your WPP or anything, but can you explain this just a bit Gabe?
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haha
we beat any flushdraw that didn't also pair. when people use their time to call down with a flushdraw they usually like winning the pot if they miss and the other person stopped betting.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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I led out. I hadn't played too much with this guy but my initial read was that he was pretty passive. I put him on either a pair or the flush draw. Since he didn't strike me as the type that would bet a missed draw, I elected to go ahead and bet. My reasoning that was if he had the flush draw there was little benefit in me trying to induce a bluff. Betting though has a chance to get higher pairs other than 7's to fold as I could have very well been betting a pair of 7's the entire way or even had hit a backdoor FD. He folded pretty quickly though so he was probably on a draw.
I don't like my line so much. It's definately a mistake against more aggressive players I think because it doesn't give them the chance to bluffed a missed draw and they'll call down often enough with an over pair like 8's or 9's. Except against the most passive players I think check-calling is probably the better line. I just wanted some input.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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aislephive
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If you read him for being loose passive then betting the river is a big mistake. Your hand is not strong enough to value bet and is only a bluff catcher. Since you don't think he will bet a missed draw, there is no harm in checking. I doubt he folds many better hands. I would check/call against most players for sure, but I would never ever bet here.
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