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zook
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04-04-2009, 06:52 PM
Post subject: 2/4 - 2nd nuts facing weird river c/r
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4-of-a-Kind
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Lot of history with villain, he runs 27/23/3.6 over a lot of hands, steals from the sb 35%. Pre-flop we battle a lot and he's a bit spewy. Post-flop he's aggro and still a bit spewy, but not as bad. Definitely a winning player at these stakes. He probably views me as solid and aggro, I've gotten the better of him for the most part.
This is a weird spot for him to c/r because obviously I don't expect him to play a K this way very often but he knows that and prob expects me to look him up light.
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saw flop
SB ($604)
Hero (BB) ($521)
UTG ($335.10)
MP ($89.10)
Button ($558.30)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 , A
3 folds, SB bets $16, Hero calls $12
Flop: ($32) 8 , K, 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24
Turn: ($80) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $56, SB calls $56
River: ($192) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $150, SB raises to $508 (All-In), Hero... ($275 to call)
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Irisheyes
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I don't see why he can't have a K a lot here given the aggro dynamic between you. He probably expects you to barrel a lot of streets if he c/c the flop with a K.
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Irisheyes
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Also he's not value raising for sure and this is a really bad spot to bluff (and most people aren't another level up afaik) so I'm probably going to fold here if I'm you.
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TheLeakyFaucet
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Yeah its def a spot where he can check a K 3x to induce bluffs...
there is no way he is bluffing here and thats all you beat.. id fold
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bjsaust
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Is there value betting this river?
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Numbr2intheWorld
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definitely fold...
It wouldn't be a terrible bluff though by him.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Fold, who is gonna bluff here
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Luke999
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Do you not like to checkback this river? I mean getting C/R'd is gross and I doubt your ever getting called by worse.
Be rather nice if he C/R'd missed hearts here.
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pocketfours
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I'd fold, but I think it's a pretty std vb on the river.
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Alexos
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by pocketfours
I'd fold, but I think it's a pretty std vb on the river. |
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Fnord
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River bet too big? This is a very polarized board, I think hero should be making a lot of 1/3 pot bets here.
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nutsinho
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ur river bet is like a bluff to fold a chop. id check
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Alexos
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Can't he look us up with 99+ too?
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Fnord
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Quote:
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ur river bet is like a bluff to fold a chop. id check
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So, can we balance a smaller bet?
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Genitruc
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ya this looks like a K a really big % of the time
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Genitruc
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and comon... we gotta v bet this river 100% of the time vs this villain
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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