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yourfather
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02-16-2009, 07:52 PM
Post subject: 100nl thoughts plz
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Full House
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Villain is ok, played about 40 hands w him. Hasn't done anything that really stands out.
Is shoving over on turn better? What do we think about this river card and his check? Good or dumb river shove?
Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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BB: $125.90
Hero (SB): $173.85
Pre-Flop: 7 6 dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2
Flop: ($6) 5 6 8 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $15, Hero calls $11
Turn: ($36) Q (2 Players)
BB bets $30, Hero calls $30
River: ($96) 8 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $125.85 and is All-In
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Fnord
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If you shove the turn, does he fold 8x?
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yourfather
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Probably, unless its 8sXs or 87 and then its less likely.
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Fnord
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Then shove the turn. You beat his busted draws and can suck out against most of his monsters. Folding out one pair hands is a pretty big win and it helps balance your shove range.
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Mr Bigcity
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defiantly shove the turn... way better odds that he folds after the turn to a big time raise. Besides like Fnord says if you shove the turn you still have tons of outs if he does indeed have a bigger pair.
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ATOTHEC101
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Shove the turn, as played check the river, shoving is complete spew when you have the best hand a ton.
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I check back the river because he's never folding better or calling with worse
is he folding Q7/Q6/Q5 here? not in a million years
Only two better hands fold: A6, K6 (and some chops fold but why risk your stack to get a chop to fold?)
worse hands do not call
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yourfather
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I agree in retrospect its a bit spewwy but you don't think he can have 77, 99-JJ and fold on the river?
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Da GOAT
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thoughts on checking flop?
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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yourfather
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
thoughts on checking flop?
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Hmm, why check this flop? Its heads up and I am c betting a decent amount anyway. I have good equity vs almost any hand and some turns can be ugly for me.
I guess checking is decent too idk, my reasons for betting might not be too good. Would like to hear thoughts on this.
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youngunpoker
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If I personally was playing I would bet this flop(like you did) You don't have much to fear at this point with outs everywhere and middle pair to back it up (not saying if I only had this middle pair with no draw that i would take the same course of action) I would then push the turn as previously suggested by others because it could force people off a lot of hands that could beat you. Should they have the balls to call you, you still have outs to win the river.
Thats my point of view
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