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Old 09-22-2009, 12:39 AM     Post subject: 100NL TAG flop raise I can has overpair #1 (permalink)  
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He raised a similar drawy board texture a few hands ago and I folded flop
Should this make me less or more likely to call him down?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q
1 fold, Hero bets $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 7, 9, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises to $21, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($51.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $28, Hero calls $28

River: ($107.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $63.95 (All-In), Hero calls $53.75 (All-In)

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Old 09-22-2009, 02:13 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Why not check-shove the turn instead of this line?
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so hopefully he shoves diamonds on the river after missing
I will fold a rivered diamond (this also saves money vs. sets that shove for value anyway)
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:24 PM #4 (permalink)  
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so hopefully he shoves diamonds on the river after missing
I will fold a rivered diamond (this also saves money vs. sets that shove for value anyway)
why make a thread if you had a plan and the hand played out exactly as you hoped?
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Old 09-22-2009, 06:34 PM #5 (permalink)  
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so hopefully he shoves diamonds on the river after missing
I will fold a rivered diamond (this also saves money vs. sets that shove for value anyway)

You need to look more at ppl's sizing. It's good to hope that he'll bluff shove river, but if he has messed up his sizing somewhere and only leaves himself like 1/2 pot bet left on river, the chances of this happening are much smaller. In this case he left himself a reasonably small river bet... hard to say if he'd bluff or not.

As played, river is meh. He knows all draws missed and he knows you know that, but at the same time you beat his two pair hands now. I'd prob call for the price.
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 I'd just muck the flop unless i had a legit read not to.

if you call down like you did, and you fold the river... lol


edit: just read description.. if you think he raises a wide range on flop just 3bet small and get it in
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:29 PM #7 (permalink)  
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so hopefully he shoves diamonds on the river after missing
I will fold a rivered diamond (this also saves money vs. sets that shove for value anyway)
why make a thread if you had a plan and the hand played out exactly as you hoped?
to evaluate my plan in the first place
also maybe sample size of two hands where he raised a low drawy flop is not good enough to start calling a raise on the flop, he could have easily flopped two sets in a row or something
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:04 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I'd just muck the flop unless i had a legit read not to.

if you call down like you did, and you fold the river... lol


edit: just read description.. if you think he raises a wide range on flop just 3bet small and get it in

This was my immediate reaction. You need to make a flop decision in this hand, not a scheme to check/call.
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