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yourfather

02-10-2009, 07:14 PM Post subject: 100nl set on turn and another hand same villain

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Villain is unknown. How is this line? Of course I intend to call if he shoves over for whatever he has left. River bet is too small I think but I think he'll get it in himself with 2 pair hands.

I don't think he can ever really have a flush here unless he sucks.

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BB: $49.20
UTG: $98
CO: $101.50
BTN: $100
Hero (SB): $100

Pre-Flop: T

dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, BTN raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50, BB folds

Flop: ($7) A

(2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($15) T

(2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $10, Hero raises to $27, BTN calls $17

River: ($69) 5

(2 Players)
Hero bets $27

Here's another hand with same villain a little later. The previous hand he 3bet me from the button, I 4 bet and he folded.

Easy fold here on turn or? I think there's some leveling going on here. Would he check back JJ on this wettish flop ever? I doubt it. And I have the As so he cant have like AQs.

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SB: $98.85
Hero (BB): $122.35
UTG: $99
MP: $105.65
CO: $100
BTN: $178.55

Pre-Flop: K

dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, CO raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, CO calls $8.50

Flop: ($24.50) J

(2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($24.50) 5

(2 Players)
Hero bets $14, CO raises to $38

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02-10-2009, 07:18 PM

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Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point

Bigger turn raise to set-up a river shove.

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02-10-2009, 07:30 PM

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why didnt you go all in? why do you think he would have to suck in order to have a flush?

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02-10-2009, 07:40 PM

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What flush can he have here? No combo draws and I have the Td. And I prob was overthinking not just shoving river.

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02-10-2009, 07:53 PM

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LoL

If it was me on the button my range has a lot of Xd Yd in it.

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02-10-2009, 07:56 PM

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Your calling the turn c/r with Xd, Xd, no combo draw or pair plus draw? Maybe my fault for not raising it more.

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02-10-2009, 08:09 PM

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A diamond came and you gave action. It's at WORST a small mistake.

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02-10-2009, 08:11 PM

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Hand 1 - Def raise turn harder and shove river.

Hand 2 - you're so under-repped here I can't imagine folding. I'd bet every street until I was all-in. As played, I jam over turn raise.

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02-10-2009, 08:17 PM

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Why jam in hand 2? I think if he checks back a draw he isn't going to raise over a delayed cbet, and if he does have a hand he's not gonna stack off to a 3 bet besides KQ.

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02-10-2009, 08:53 PM

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Jam because if we call, there's only a half pot bet left on the river. If there was more behind I'd like flatting a lot more.

I don't really understand what he has here though. Maybe AQ thinking we rep nothing. Possibly JJJ and we stack anyhow. Maybe a hand like Jx or QQ raising the turn for a cheap showdown on the river. I mean... whatever it is.. I doesn't make sense to me.

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02-10-2009, 10:33 PM

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Hand 2 continued:

Pretty awful river.

SB: $98.85
Hero (BB): $122.35
UTG: $99
MP: $105.65
CO: $100
BTN: $178.55

Pre-Flop: K

dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, CO raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, CO calls $8.50

Flop: ($24.50) J

(2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($24.50) 5

(2 Players)
Hero bets $14, CO raises to $38, Hero calls $24

River: ($100.50) Q

(2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $50 and is All-In

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02-11-2009, 12:28 AM

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pretty good river actually. but you should have folded the turn

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02-11-2009, 02:48 AM

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pretty good river actually. but you should have folded the turn

I feel like we're only losing to JJJ here... assuming he's not calling all of his KJ's even.

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02-11-2009, 04:10 AM

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Well part of his range is QQ here and now I beat like nothing but bluffs, and maybe AJ, AQ if I am lucky.

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02-11-2009, 07:11 AM

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Well part of his range is QQ here and now I beat like nothing but bluffs, and maybe AJ, AQ if I am lucky.

I don't think he every has QQ here with the turn raise.
For me it's either a tricky bad-played JJ/KK/AA or a OESD/FD.

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