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05-22-2009, 01:59 AM
Post subject: 100NL reg wars
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This guy was complaining about how I was a "monkey"
We'd 3b and 4b each other all day long, in fact I read up on 4b ranges and I think I'm going to have to felt TT+,AQ+ against this guy because he really doesn't give me shit for respect preflop... or post-flop for that matter
Like he calls me super light and expects me to felt super light against him
How do you like this?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($196.45)
MP ($104)
Hero (CO) ($107)
Button ($129.55)
SB ($47.50)
BB ($131.30)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 7 , 7
UTG bets $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50, 3 folds
Flop: ($8.50) 6, J, 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6
Turn: ($20.50) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $14, UTG calls $14
River: ($48.50) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $45
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bjsaust
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I'd tend to take showdown.
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Galapogos
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Don't like the turn bet and REALLY don't like the river bet.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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will641
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yeah turn is def a check. and yeah, river no. that card hits his range harder than yours.
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bode
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your hand looks like a missed draw. I dont hate the turn bet, but i would rather just check it down.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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will641
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really? i dont like either but i think turn is worse.
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lockpull
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Originally Posted by will641
really? i dont like either but i think turn is worse.
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We turned an OESD and doesn't it also allow us to get a free showdown on the river if opp has Jx/99-10 or make someone with a much better hand hope to be able to c/r?
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Da GOAT
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Originally Posted by bode
your hand looks like a missed draw. I dont hate the turn bet, but i would rather just check it down.
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if his hand looks like a missed draw then he can bet as above.
betting river depends on opps level and can hero call 6x, 5x here. this is highly doubtful so your prob value towning yourself by betting.
just check back turn
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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he timebanked and was THIS |--| close to herocalling me with ace high, lol
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Benoso
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I don't mind the turn bet but the river's a bit spewy.
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mcatdog
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Originally Posted by Benoso
I don't mind the river bet but the turn's a bit spewy.
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pf ranges: 22+, AJo+, ATs+, KQs, 87s+
he bets that flop with his entire range
but he checks the turn ONLY if he can't beat a jack because he doesn't have weak jacks in his PF range (maybe he has KJs, but that's still far from weak) unless he's being tricky because he knows I like to float
when he calls on the turn he has 22,33,77-TT and like flush draws in his range
possibly also a jack that decided to pot control on a drawy board (?? that doesn't make sense)
I probably can't have spades, but I can have clubs or a straight draw (which I incidentally do)
I don't really have a king here ever unless I flatted AKs for the lulz (which wouldn't make sense since I'd be super happy to 3b/shove it pf against this guy), floated flop, turned a club draw, and got there on the river
so he probably doesn't fold anything that beats me other than three hands: 88, 99, TT
so I don't like the river bet
now that I think about it we're like good on this river all the time?
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bjsaust
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Actually I thought it was value, I just didnt think it was good value. Thats why I'd take showdown.
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nutsinho
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i think betting turn is whatever, on river this bet is terrible as a bluff and too thin for value since he raised UTG
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Originally Posted by iopq
so he probably doesn't fold anything that beats me other than three hands: 88, 99, TT
so I don't like the river bet
now that I think about it we're like good on this river all the time?
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
I was 100% sure river was for value... too thin imo, but certainly value as he could call with a smaller pair if he puts you on a missed draw.
I would check turn and value bet river, because 2 streets with that hand is a little too optimistic. As played I might make it like 1/2 pot and expect to get called with a solid A high.
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Da GOAT
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on river this bet is terrible as a bluff and too thin for value since he raised UTG
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this is a v good point, ive seen some jman vids talk somewhat about this too
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Originally Posted by iopq
so he probably doesn't fold anything that beats me other than three hands: 88, 99, TT
so I don't like the river bet
now that I think about it we're like good on this river all the time?
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
I was 100% sure river was for value... too thin imo, but certainly value as he could call with a smaller pair if he puts you on a missed draw.
I would check turn and value bet river, because 2 streets with that hand is a little too optimistic. As played I might make it like 1/2 pot and expect to get called with a solid A high. |
somehow I think betting on the river turns our hand into a bluff
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mixchange
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I think this is actually fine vs. a lot of players trying to avoid 3 streets of betting with mid PP's, but vs. someone who views you as a monkey its probably bad as he's probably just looking to showdown on a non drawy board, and as you said call you light.
Pretty read dependent spot, hard for us to make this call
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