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12-21-2008, 12:33 AM
Post subject: 100nl - QQ overpair OOP facing flop raise
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Only 92 hands on the villain, but he is 20/15/4 with a raise flop cbet of 25%.
I'm generally at a loss for what my play is here on the flop. It seems b/3b gets me AI when I'm behind, and folds out his draws + weaker overpairs.
If I'm b/calling what's my plan on the turn?
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG Hero ($100.00)
UTG+1 CrabClaws ($203.80)
CO roachpole ($104.05)
BTN partyboy-x ($37.05)
SB Roduk ($118.45)
BB rulazaskepas ($101.50)
Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG  
Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, roachpole calls $3.50, 3 folds
Flop:    ($8.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, roachpole raises to $20, $13 to Hero ($89.50)?
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L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2007
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U play on stars rite? u have a script that makes it 3.5X PF or u type it urself?
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well, if you bet/call the flop, the plan on the turn is to see what the next card is
a blank adds equity
we're c/f scare cards because if he has a set he shouldn't be too happy about a 4 coming off on the turn either
so what we want to know is whether he's going to fire a second barrel with a draw often enough to stack off on blank turns
if he's not going to barrel us with a draw on the turn, then we'll c/f the turn and call a blank river
if he's going to barrel us with a draw, we're getting it in with good equity against a draw, but depends on how often he has a draw here and how often he has a set
so actually I'm kind of thinking b/c flop, c/f turn against most opponents because they're going to give up on the turn if they miss
so with that line we're losing equity against a draw (but not really since we got two bets on the flop already so he's already paid for his "free" turn card) but not getting raped by a set either
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AnTman_69
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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i dont think he folds his draws if u b/3b..and he might have a hard time folding an over pair.? I think this is really read dependent.... But im usually sticking it in on the flop...but im at 50nl which is slightly more fishy.
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zook
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4-of-a-Kind
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Flop is drawy enough that I'm ok stacking off. I raise to $40ish and call a shove.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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3bet small/call'er off
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by zook
Flop is drawy enough that I'm ok stacking off. I raise to $40ish and call a shove.
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Although I didn't play the hand in this manner, I expected to see a post similar to this.. What kind of flop would you not be looking to get it in on? Would you b/3b on a flop that is only has a FD, and not many straight possibilities, such as 9c5c2d?
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zook
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
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Originally Posted by zook
Flop is drawy enough that I'm ok stacking off. I raise to $40ish and call a shove.
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Although I didn't play the hand in this manner, I expected to see a post similar to this.. What kind of flop would you not be looking to get it in on? Would you b/3b on a flop that is only has a FD, and not many straight possibilities, such as 9c5c2d? |
Yeah, I would, but it's closer because there are fewer worse pairs that might want to get it in. Flops that I wouldn't get it in... medium flush draw flops that are really coordinated 987 two-tone, 976tt, 865tt etc. paired fd flops like TT3tt, 994tt etc., obv a lot of non-fd flops.
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