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Old 09-19-2010, 02:48 AM     Post subject: 100nl: KK OOP in a 4b pot #1 (permalink)  
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villian is over as of now a 32/21/5 with a 17% 3b over 19 hands (so not very accurate)

I have a note on him which is probably a year+ old that says calls a 3b with KTo.

lets start with the flop and I will add more from there

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Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K
1 fold, Hero bets $3, Button raises to $11, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24, Button calls $13

Flop: ($49.50) A, 4, 5 (2 players)
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:21 AM #2 (permalink)  
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setting up stacks for 2 streets seems reasonable
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So, are you saying that we should be wanting to get it AI by the turn?
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most turns year if he's got a draw he's prolly shippin flop no?
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what? you think he will have a draw here a lot of the time? He calls a 4b OOP. What do we do if cbet and he calls can we then c/f the turn though? or are we expecting to get this in even though he could be calling here with Ax, some medium+ sized PPs. Do you think he knows that im 4b here with QQ+ and now that my chances of not having AA because of the A on the flop maybe he is going to be hyper aggro to get me off a hand like KK?
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Just about anything seems reasonable. I probably wouldn't fold at any point though.
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Any line I take here is to induce some sort of spazz.

I'm probably betting $12 on the flop. I might check the turn and see what's up, also not planning on folding at any point.
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Couple of things i dont get. Firstly, if the note is a year old, having 19 hands on the guy seems a bit weird but not unreasonable (new db or whatnot). Secondly, are we not giving the note any credit? Even though its only 19 hands, his numbers seem to be pretty laggy and bad lags tend to call small 4b's pretty light ip. That is either because they convince themselves that ppl are adjusting to them and over adjust, or they just dont fold AJs+ to small 4b's ip.. So if we have a note on the guy hinting towards a wide 3b calling range and signs of him being a LAG are we really never even thinking of folding?
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thanks for the replies.

Yah I have a new temporary database... my old computer with my database fried. I'm going to try and get my hands off of it sometime soon though.

So when are we ever folding here? if ever? Like what kinda stats does villian need to have? would we be more willing to fold against a 40/10 since maybe he calls 4b with Ax?
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