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Old 06-05-2009, 08:23 PM     Post subject: 100NL KK gets 4bet cold and tptk facing turn c/r #1 (permalink)  
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Both villains are tag as am I. Line/bet sizing check for both please.

Bodog $1 BB 6max
UTG ($183.00)
MP ($101.00)
CO ($72.00)
Hero (BTN) ($194.70)
SB ($134.50)
BB ($105.00)

Preflop: Dealt to Hero:
2 folds, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $12, SB raises to $26.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $14.50

Flop ($58):
SB bets $108 all-in, Hero folds

Bodog $1 BB 6max
UTG ($95.75)
MP ($100.00)
CO ($98.50)
Hero (BTN) ($156.70)
SB ($334.50)
BB ($95.00)

Preflop: Dealt to Hero:
UTG raises to $3.50, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop ($12):
UTG bets $10, 1 fold, Hero calls $10

Turn ($32)
UTG checks, Hero bets $22, UTG raises to $82.75 all-in, Hero?
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:30 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm assuming you were flatting the 4bet because you thought his 4bet range was highly weighted towards random bluffs, in which case a snap call and a fist pump is in order. -- If you were worried about him having QQ/JJ, there's no reason to not get it in preflop as there's no way those hands are 3betting them folding to a shove as it.

Hand 2 is pretty clear fold as villain can't even have the NFD, most likely he has 45 or some kind of set.
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:13 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: I really like the lay down, most people will pay off the villain in this situation. You had the read on the player and put him on AA QQ or JJ. Your Wagering pre-flop looks fine here. Well played.

Hand 2: Pre-flop your call not bad.

The flop is where this hand gets a little tricky, maybe even pre-flop. You have played with this guy for a while to label him TAG. I am interested to know if the villain in this spot was making standard $3.50 raises with his PP's in EP? Also how he was wagering when he hit the flop with big hands?

The flop: UTG makes a c-bet, and you call. At this point you may have the best hand, if you for sure are not putting this guy AA-JJ pre-flop. And I think by your call you did not. I would really like to see a re-raise from you on the flop, not really in love with the flat call at this point.

Turn: You are still wagering this as if you feel you have the best hand at this point. Depending on the read I had on this player I may call this hand.

My choice to call or fold comes down to the question of Was the villain making standard $3.50 raises in EP with his Pocket Pairs? Also how he was wagering when he hit the flop with big hands?
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:57 AM #4 (permalink)  
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snapcall first hand.

second hand comes down to villian type, if hes not full of shit its a fold.
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Old 06-20-2009, 04:06 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I snap push flop-if he has AA I tip my hat to him and give him the money, if he has AK, QQ, then off to the races.
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Whoops I meant snap push preflop. On the flop given this play it's toiugh either way.
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Old 06-21-2009, 04:47 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Shove hand 1 pf.

Hand 2 is a fold.
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Old 06-21-2009, 06:11 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 hand one is an easy call of course. On paper its a shove pre as well, but I can't fault you for mixing it up if you feel his range is >than like 33% bluff.

hand 2: fold pre or 3bet, never call imo, played fine postflop if you folded to the all in.
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