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Old 04-11-2008, 06:10 PM     Post subject: 100NL helps please! #1 (permalink)  
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Some recent hands, let me know how you think I played them.

1: I have a hard time folding 4c6c in the BB to a min raise. Maybe that's the problem right there. The raise on the turn seems not so good to me perhaps. Opp was new but over 20 hands was 31/6/2

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SB ($101.40)
Hero ($103)
UTG ($161.40)
MP ($106.95)
CO ($250.60)
Button ($176.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 6.
UTG raises to $2, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($4.50) A, K, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $4.5, Hero calls $4.50.

Turn: ($13.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $13.5, Hero raises to $54, UTG calls $40.50.

River: ($121.50) J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: $121.50


2: Button is a TAG reg, CO is a 18/7/3 loose preflop but aggressive after. I felt that bet/folding river was the best play but check calling is perhaps better?

I think I played this poorly but I'm honestly not sure what exactly to do on the flop and turn.

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SB ($89.90)
BB ($174.60)
UTG ($37.90)
Hero ($116.70)
CO ($197.15)
Button ($166.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, CO calls $3.50, Button calls $3.50, 2 folds.

Flop: ($12) , , (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets $8.5, Hero calls $8.50, CO calls $8.50.

Turn: ($37.50) (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: ($37.50) (3 players)
Hero bets $24, CO calls $24, Button folds.

Final Pot: $85.50
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Old 04-11-2008, 06:10 PM #2 (permalink)  
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3: Kind of a weird spot. Over a few hands opp was running 27/23, I had 3 bet him last hand and he folded, so I figured he would be calling me with a loose range. That said, on the turn I feel like not that many worse hands are calling me, but with the two flush on the board I think this is my only play.

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Button ($100)
Hero ($105.50)
BB ($140.95)
UTG ($100)
MP ($100)
CO ($80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
MP raises to $3.5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, MP calls $8.

Flop: ($24.50) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $15, MP calls $15.

Turn: ($54.50) (3 players)
Hero bets $79 (All-In), MP calls $73.50 (All-In).

River: ($201.50) (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $201.50

4: Against the CO from hand 2 above, 18/7/3. I figured c/c on the river allows some worse hands to bet.

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MP ($98.50)
CO ($174.60)
Button ($41)
Hero ($102.30)
BB ($123.65)
UTG ($170.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
3 folds, Button calls $1, Hero raises to $4.5, BB calls $3, Button folds.

Flop: ($9.50) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($21.50) (2 players)
Hero bets $15, BB calls $15.

River: ($51.50) (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $51, Hero calls $51.

Final Pot: $153.50
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Old 04-11-2008, 07:19 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1: Flop is the time to go apeshit.
Hand 2: Bet flop methinks
Hand 3: Not bad, tho maybe I prefer betting smaller on the turn, idk?
Hand 4: Not bad, but I prefer betting 35 on river - Kx type hands will check behind often here.
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Old 04-11-2008, 07:29 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: C/raise flop or lead on flop are both viable options. As played on flop i think i lead turn since u dont want to give him the opportunity to check it through. As played on turn i guess u have to stick the rest in on river and hope he calls with TP.

Hand 2: Bet flop and stick it in if the aggro raises u. As played i like the bet/fold on river.

Hand 3: Nh, but bet more on flop so u have appx a psb on turn.

Hand 4:Nh, but i think betting river is better than checking, since he seems passive and i think he checks behind > valuebets with KK or herocalls with QQ/JJ
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Old 04-12-2008, 05:14 AM #5 (permalink)  
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One reason I didn't want to bet in hand 4 on the river is that I wanted to be able to fold to a push, but I didn't want that small bet to inspire a bluff raise.

Of course, I ended up having to pay a full pot size bet to see if my aces were good instead of less had i bet/folded. But sometimes he's bluffing there so I think that equals out. I was just worried about a bluff raise against a smallish value bet on the river. Maybe that's just not a legit fear and people rarely actually do that.
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If u think he's thigh enough not to raise AK pf i like a bigger betsizing so u can push on river. If he plays postflop fit or fold and does only setmine it makes the hand iffy, his betsizing on river says set or straight/bluff imo, don't think he bets that hard with Kx or pp.
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Old 04-12-2008, 08:46 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Flop play is fine. Shove river for value.
Hand 2: Bet this flop please
Hand 3: Bigger flop bet makes the turn shove less awkward
Hand 4: This is so it depends. I would just c/r the rest in on the river.

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One reason I didn't want to bet in hand 4 on the river is that I wanted to be able to fold to a push.
Don't fold the nuts to a push.
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:30 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Flop play is fine. Shove river for value.
Turn is ok?

And I don't understand why you would shove the river at all. What hands is he calling with that I beat? AQ is the only one I can think of and even that is unlikely given my huge ass turn raise. You'd never guess what he checked behind, btw.

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Don't fold the nuts to a push.
I understand that it's pretty hard for him to have a set here, but considering he is an 18/7 it's possible he would slowplay it that stupidly. I don't see much of a reason he would think he could take me off my hand with a busted draw if I bet the river, and there's no reason for him to raise a hand with value.

That said I guess if a small value bet on the river inspired a stupid bluff, that would be solid and thus I should bet/call river. And I guess a c/r would be good because he would be pot committed with a worse hand?

This time the guy had a pretty sick but semi-understandable holding. I'm very glad I just called this time, but maybe it was the wrong play in the long run?
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:34 AM #9 (permalink)  
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don't think he bets that hard with Kx or pp.
No doubt, and the bet size actually seriously bothered me. It was strange enough of a line that I think I had to at least call, but why he bet so much in that spot was really troubling to me. If I was semibluffing through the hand a smaller bluff gets the job done, if I was purely bluffing a smaller bluff gets the job done, but if I have solid value I'm probably going to call here. It weirded me out, and I was indeed behind on the river.
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:38 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Going through hand 2...

If I bet the flop and get raised, do I go all in on the flop?

If I bet the flop and get called, do I bet again on the turn? If I get raised on the turn, it seems like a really shitty spot.
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