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shame_on_me
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06-03-2009, 11:52 AM
Post subject: 100NL: flopped nuts, getting most value
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5
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Hello guys! I'm new to this community, going to participate in its life. 
I have some problems getting the most value of my nuts hands.
Here is the first one. I flopped 4 of a kind.
After I played it I realized that I hate my play in this hand.
Villain is 29/19/1.4 over 640 hands. He opens 20% UTG and his fold 2 CB on flop is just 35%.
How should I play? Sure you will understand that my thought process is smth like: "Oh jesus finally I flopped it. No way to c-bet he gonna fold and I will cry a river". So I always try to slowplay it. I think it is pretty bad. If I check/call it I will show that I have a showdown value and it will be hard for me to get value on later streets. If I c/r this blank turn he will fold every hand except of KJ, AK, JThh, AJhh type hands.
And on the river I went AI pretty fast in order to think him I bluffing but I think it is really very bad cuz my passive line really looks like I had a FD.
So what do you think my line in this hand should look like? Sould I just value bet three streets?
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No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed)
saw flop
SB ($101.50)
Hero (BB) ($100)
UTG ($120.85)
MP ($26.65)
Button ($40.55)
Preflop: Hero is BB with QsQc
UTG bets $4, 3 folds, Hero raises $12, UTG calls $9
Flop: ($26.50) Qh, Qd, Kh (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $10, Hero calls $10
Turn: ($46.50) 8s (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $20, Hero calls $20
River: ($86.50) 4h (2 players)
Hero bets $57 (All-In)
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dublin
Posts: 4,308
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I just bet flop and hope he has a peice
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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bode
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
Posts: 4,270
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if he is only folding 35% to cbets then we should be cbetting ldo.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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half pot on the flop imo
you can still get it in very easily with that bet sizing
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ATOTHEC101
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Full House
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,248
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$16 on flop, slow playing like this never results in you getting the most value from your big hands.
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"This sure beats Super Mario Bros.!" is my ejaculation catch phrase.
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Marshall28
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,198
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If you play against this guy often, then balance is necessary and you should be c-betting the flop.
If not ...
Then I like the way you played it.
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Originally Posted by Marshall28
If you play against this guy often, then balance is necessary and you should be c-betting the flop.
If not ...
Then I like the way you played it.
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I don't like it
villain can tank/fold a king
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Kiriath
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Denmark
Posts: 216
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I dont like it either.
Villian will fold just about any hand, AA and KK will call, AK will prolly fold.
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dsaxton
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
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I think it's alright. You have the deck crippled and he will give about the same amount of action with hands that call a flop bet if you check. There's a slight edge to checking the flop if villain has a hand like 5-5 or a complete miss, too, which probably comprises a big part of his range.
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Fnord
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
Posts: 19,336
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^^^^^^^^ What he said.
If you play with this guy a lot or there are regs at the table you play with a lot it sets a bad precident. However, if none of the above is true the slow play is just fine, perhaps even optimal given how aggro online players get when you show any weakness.
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