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12-26-2008, 06:44 AM
Post subject: 100nl - ez shove?
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Villain unknown. I'm pretty sure this is super-standard but i've been getting pwned in big/3bet pots the last few days.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($97.30)
MP ($12.80)
Hero (Button) ($101)
SB ($103.45)
BB ($121.50)
Preflop: Hero is Button with Q , Q
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $7
Flop: ($21.50) 8 , 7 , 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG raises to $32, Hero raises to $91 (All-In)
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bigspenda73
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his flop-raise size is troubling, I don't have pokerstove, but I'm guessing we're flipping with 88+ and a dog to 77+, albeit a small one. If he can ever have like 9Ts/56s/a random gutterball then we're fine.
It gets hairier if you think he's just going to c/c 99-JJ on the flop though, which I think he does quite a % of the time.
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yah flop raise size is scary :/
obv since he's unknown i don't have a clue what he'll do with 99-JJ although c/c seems pretty likely in general
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Kid Style
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
his flop-raise size is troubling, I don't have pokerstove, but I'm guessing we're flipping with 88+ and a dog to 77+, albeit a small one. If he can ever have like 9Ts/56s/a random gutterball then we're fine.
It gets hairier if you think he's just going to c/c 99-JJ on the flop though, which I think he does quite a % of the time.
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Out of curiosity, do some of you use pokerstove and play online poker concurrently? Or is pokerstove something you use to evaluate certain hands after a session?
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bigspenda73
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usually post-session b/c I like to weight ranges a bit but in tournaments/sng's I use it when I play.
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mostly post but rarely i'll stove something while i'm playing... there usually isn't time
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Luke999
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Well he is UTG, im not sure if he is calling your 3bet with 77/33 as your not deep, but they do do it a lot.
Wouldn't surprise me if he was a spewtard and doing this with 1010/JJ or even AK but I think its a fold generally.
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Toadstool
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If you do anything other than fold on the flop, then you have to play for stacks here. Assuming we are happy to play for stacks in this spot....then we need to think of the line that gets the most out of his range. Obviously he is never folding if he ahs us beat, but if he doesn't have us beat, then maybe a call andraise turn line might be better to keep weaker made hands/air in hsi range.
If we reraise AI here our hand really looks like what it is.....which is always bad.
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wonderland
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I only play lower stakes but i have been going through the exact same thing here.
The question i put to myself is: how much variance do i want in my game? also combine that question with the question of: who would raise so big on a dry flop?
I put him on 88 or 77 fo sho. But dude, please message me if i'm right coz i'm trying to get this situation down myself 
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Da GOAT
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wot the fuck you bumping this shit for??????
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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jimmy44
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
wot the fuck you bumping this shit for??????
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I thinks these are pretty interesting!
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nutsinho
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nah drew is just a fucktard
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riverturnflop
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i don't mind the bump. i love drew's avatar
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