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Old 10-03-2009, 02:18 AM     Post subject: 100nl common spot #1 (permalink)  
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Villian was a on the tight side 18/15/4 Flop CB 75% (17 sample) Turn 60% (over 5 sample)

Call and call river if draws brick? fold?

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SB: $101.40
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UTG: $252.25

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with T J
3 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($8.00) J 9 5 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($18.00) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $14, Hero ??
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:57 AM #2 (permalink)  
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it's not terrible to fold here.

turn almost never improves his range but could improve yours.
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:17 AM #3 (permalink)  
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turn almost never improves his range but could improve yours.
I just want to make sure I understand. If Villain is aware of this and continues to bet it means ___________ ?
 
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:47 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Calling and folding the river unimproved is a viable play, as you'll almost never be folding the best hand. You're hoping to get free show down somehow and / or win the pot (possibly by sucking out) and get a better sense of how he plays if you think it's worth it. Still, folding the turn is probably best in a vacuum.
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:56 AM #5 (permalink)  
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fold turn without more info
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:15 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I can't say I'd ever fold the turn especially when brings more draws and its blind vs blind.
 
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Old 10-03-2009, 08:21 AM #7 (permalink)  
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this is one of those spots wheer we have to use reads and internet forum might not be suitable. I don't honestly think we can tell each other what to do in this type of spot without a good sense of villain on the turn on such a drawy board... you're going to hear a variety of responses, mostly based on how each player plays this spot in respect to their image, not yours'... especially BvB


however vs. this specific villain i fold due to our reads that he is tight, this is not the best possible board texture to call weak TP and pray for value vs a nit
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:03 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I can't say I'd ever fold the turn especially when brings more draws and its blind vs blind.
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:25 PM #9 (permalink)  
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is raising the flop dumb?
as played we look like all kinds of draws/almost ATC, I'd have to call turn as played because of this.
 
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:34 PM #10 (permalink)  
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is raising the flop dumb?
it is. raising flop is prob the easier way to play this hand, surely not the most profitable. He may fold QJ/JT maybe KJ if he´s that tight, other than that he folds junk or jams whatever´s ahead or flipping with us.
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