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Old 08-20-2009, 02:51 PM     Post subject: 100nl COLD 4bet AK miss flop #1 (permalink)  
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I have a fairly spewy aggro image at this table, definitely some back and forth with villain who is 22/15/6.2, he's very very aggro post flop. If I had a backdoor NFD here I'd probably check-shove or just bet/get it in on this flop. I have NOT been cold 4betting at all.

His calling range here seemed to be all over this flop imo so i reluctantly c/f. His turn line seems v confusing, almost like he has AK as well...

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
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Stacks:
UTG Dromz ($114.70)
UTG+1 rnmx ($223.60)
CO overedge ($108.00)
BTN norasadei ($91.50)
SB FaceDeChien ($99.00)
BB Hero ($108.80)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, rnmx raises to $3.50, overedge raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $25, rnmx folds, overedge calls $13

Flop: ($54, 2 players)
Hero checks, overedge checks

Turn: ($54, 2 players)
Hero checks, overedge bets $83, Hero folds

Final Pot: $137
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Old 08-20-2009, 03:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i so wanna call but fold is obv fine
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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If we're really trying to rep AA/KK here we have to bet!

$20 would leave a nice 2/3 PSB on turn.... thoughts?

Or is it simply an issue here with his calling range pwning this flop and we can't bet here ever with AK?
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:23 PM #4 (permalink)  
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This is a disaster board, even for AA/KK. I don't mind giving up with AK here at all.
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Old 08-21-2009, 03:19 AM #5 (permalink)  
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while it's a good board to look at if we did in fact have AA/KK, if we check this flop there's not too many turns that scare us, but it allows villains to spazz somehow, whats your approach for those hands. I suppose checking is better with AA than KK...

bet 20, check turn, bet river line?

If we bet and get RAISED do you think villain is more or less likely to have QQ/JJ ? I'd think they would often just flat because they're scared of like nothing.. again reads on villains are more important than generalizations
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Old 08-21-2009, 07:35 AM #6 (permalink)  
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if we did have AA and KK its still a crap board even though Id obv stack off. AK is an easy check. putting any money in postflop here is bad.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:22 PM #7 (permalink)  
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4bet bigger pre, obv fold turn
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:11 PM #8 (permalink)  
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griffey, who's the girl in your avatar? She's pretty.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:20 AM #9 (permalink)  
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I reluctantly check-fold on this flop.
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