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Old 12-16-2008, 09:24 PM     Post subject: 100NL: call turn push? #1 (permalink)  
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MP ($96.50)
Hero (Button) ($101.60)
SB ($50.30)
BB ($100.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A
2 folds, Hero raises $3.50, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($8) 2, 8, 3 (2 players)
SB bets $3.50, Hero raises $10, SB calls $6.50

Turn: ($28) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $36.80 (All-In), Hero ???

villain was unknown, but maybe bad due to stack size.
I should have made it $11.5 instead of $10.
Call the push?
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:18 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:20 AM #3 (permalink)  
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This looks just like my KK hand, except I had a K of the flush suit.

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Old 12-18-2008, 06:23 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Why is this a call and my KK hand is a fold?
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:29 AM #6 (permalink)  
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This looks just like my KK hand, except I had a K of the flush suit.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...rd-t79828.html
The different here is that on your hand villain pushes 2.5 PSB, while here it's 1.2 PSB. Plus here the board didn't pair and in your hand it did.
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Old 12-18-2008, 06:36 AM #7 (permalink)  
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raise to 13$ on flop, call turn
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:00 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:15 AM #9 (permalink)  
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i think in both hands you guys run into a badly played flush quite a bit. this one im calling because of the better pot odds.
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Old 12-18-2008, 11:26 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Im folding here a lot.
I mean he flats pre, he can have a set, 2 pair, flush. His calling hands are gonna be mainly low PP, suited connectors.
When he calls a re-raise on the flop and the straight and flush both get there, we are rarely good enough.

I find fish shove here a lot with a flush because they don't really know how to play them and think as you re-raised the flop your not folding, so they just get it in.
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:40 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Yeah I'd fold turn, your just not in good shape against his range at all, even if you are ahead a % of the time, he'll almost always have outs, and when you are behind, you'll likely be drawing dead.

It's annoying to fold in these situations and a lot of people spite call and just think "I cant fold here he's a terrible halfstack" "If he has a flush here I'll win it back later" etc and think of reasons to justify a call in their head. Don't.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:31 PM #12 (permalink)  
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