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jimmy44
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06-11-2008, 07:03 AM
Post subject: 100NL: AK Pre against TAG
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Seat 3: CO ($230.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero [ AH,KC ] ($115.55 in chips)
Seat 5: SB ($75.00 in chips)
Seat 8: BB ($115.50 in chips)
Seat 9: UTG ($150.70 in chips)
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with A  K 
UTG folds, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, CO raises to $33, Hero ???.
villain was 18/15/5.
Our image is tight, but we have been active lately. Should we push here?
I'm mostly a FR player and with this stats on FR I would be happy to stack off. However at 6max, I'm not sure.
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Fnord
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jimmy44
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So I guess you push?
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Concentrate and ask again.
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Genitruc
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anything besides folding preflop or on the flop is a winning play cutoff vs btn, tag vs tag.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
anything besides folding preflop or on the flop is a winning play cutoff vs btn, tag vs tag.
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I don't agree and trust myself to make a decision here, but meh...
Folding is fine, getting it all-in is fine. Not being able to get away from this spot against some people is pretty bad.
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I dunno. I've read that the equity AK has against the rest of the field while getting it all in but I've never seen what they have to say about that much action befoer getting it in, because the range shrinks
All of a sudden it's AK, QQ KK AA... Yeah maybe JJ and AQs.
Nothing wrong with calling here and evaluating I think.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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Genitruc
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fnord agreed there are ppl you can insta-muck this to but that takes a read and we don't have it yet
all we have is reasonable taggy stats that suggest an aware opponent who doesn't like to call so I'd be happy shoving
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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People are making such dumb 4-bets on Pokerroom lately I shove this and tell that fucker it better hold.
With no reads, stacking off with AK preflop is hardly a mistake. Folding can be fine with a read. Basically what Genitruc said.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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jimmy44
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Thanks for the food for thought guys!
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