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d0zer
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07-04-2008, 02:14 AM
Post subject: 100NL: AJ turns top 2
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SB ($128.70)
BB ($201.50)
Hero ($103.60)
MP ($116.35)
CO ($137.95)
Button ($100.50)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with J , A .
Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, Button calls $4, 2 folds.
Flop: ($9.50) J , 6 , T (2 players)
Hero bets $7, Button raises to $20, Hero calls $13.
Turn: ($49.50) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $33, Hero raises to $79.6
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minSim
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I think c/r is about our worst option.
I can't decide if b/f turn is an option...I almost never use it as a line after calling on the flop OOP and am not sure when it's good actually.
But we're a significant dog to villains range here when KQ hits.
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keepitstrict
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I don't think villain is raising the flop with KQ here...and I agree check raising is probably a bad play, I might have just lead out on the turn and hoped to take it down right there.
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bjsaust
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Folding here because you're worried about KQ is ridiculous.
I'd probably just c/c, because I certainly dont want to fold, but if we bet and he raises again we dont like poker very much either way.
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BigLRIP
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This is standard on this turn. The hand becomes more interesting if the board blanks off and you face multiple barrels.
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minSim
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Why is KQ not in villains flop raising range?
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bjsaust
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Noone said its not in it, but its certainly not the entirety of his range. You cant put a guy on a single hand and fold a very good one without a heck of a good reason.
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minSim
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I didn't.
I based my comment on a flop raising range of 66/TT/98s/JTs/KQ to which we are a significant dog with only 24,5% equity on this turn, being oop and nearing the commitment point.
Ofcourse there's always some random other stuff in his range, but we're UTG against an unknown, we don't have a lot of info to be able to extend his range.
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Galapogos
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Should probably fold the flop if you can't consider your ace an out.
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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d0zer
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In thinking more about this hand, villain's flop raising range is probably something like:
66,TT,JJ,JT
98, KQ, AJ
(maybe) QQ+
(and if he's bad)
AJ, KJ, QJ, AK?
+10% bluff
Since we don't have a read, we should err on the side of caution & eliminate the "if he's bad" hands, leaving us with 10% bluff, and a range which we're mostly behind still after hitting 2pr.
So a c/r doesn't make tons of sense since we're blowing off the hands we do beat. QQ-KK might make a crying call, but I think we weigh them less because they'd probably 3bet.
Probably just shoulda folded the flop without a read. Being OOP sucks 
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pankfish
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C/C the turn. reevaluate on the river.
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PapalRage
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Should probably fold the flop if you can't consider your ace an out.
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this
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ndultimate.
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dsaxton
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Hero doesn't have nearly enough money behind to even consider folding this, so check-raising all-in on the turn seems totally standard. What is your alternative, call, check the river and then let your opponent decide whether or not to put you all-in?
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EzDuzIt
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by keepitstrict
I might have just lead out on the turn and hoped to take it down right there.
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dont even know where to begin on that.
what is going on in this thread, hand looks fine.
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
Hero doesn't have nearly enough money behind to even consider folding this, so check-raising all-in on the turn seems totally standard. What is your alternative, call, check the river and then let your opponent decide whether or not to put you all-in?
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What he said.
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