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jimmy44
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11-24-2008, 07:50 AM
Post subject: 100NL AA: turn flush being c/r big
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Hero (MP) ($101)
CO ($98.50)
Button ($20)
SB ($100.16)
BB ($103.05)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A , A
1 fold, Hero raises $3.50, 3 folds, BB calls $2.50
Flop: ($7.50) 8, K, 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6
Turn: ($19.50) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14, BB raises $61.50, Hero ???
villain was 23/13/3 - c/r 15% turn.
My image is TAG.
These big raises on scary cards are often good ... however, we have still at least 7 outs (if villain has the flush).
What can we put villain on here? Flush/straight/2 pairs/bluff?
What do we do?
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Juked07
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Do we know anything about the villain?
I think fold, but I pretty much always give credit whenever villains overshove unless I have a read.
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XTR1000
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We´re ahead vs made flushes, Tp turned into a bluff and sets, which are unlikely. I cant see him having a straight ever. Im all in.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
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jimmy44
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
We´re ahead vs made flushes, Tp turned into a bluff and sets, which are unlikely. I cant see him having a straight ever. Im all in.
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I don't see how we are ahead here 
I agree that the straight is quite remote.
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XTR1000
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Ya. when I take out half the KQ bluffs and half the pr+sd we´re in bad shape.
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Originally Posted by bigred
xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
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griffey24
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umm... without proper reads that villain is spewy/bluffy then this is a pretty easy fold I think.
We beat nothing nothing here, and the board is scary enough that two pairs/straights could be jacking it up hard for protection.
The only hand that makes sense to call the flop and potentially turn itself into a bluff here is like 89 or something like that. Most hands that called flop have some value here.
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bode
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anyone else like checking behind the turn here? all were doing with a bet is folding out stuff we are already ahead of and we have a pretty nice redraw against hands that are planning to c/r.
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Da GOAT
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yea i like checking back turn. turn card sucks. i like betting if we know what his high cr turn % consists of or if he is just running good.
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kmind
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Yeah I definitely agree with checking turn and now folding
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L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
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Yea i like checking the turn or B/F turn. Dont see B/C or B/3betting as an option. I dont necessarily like stacking off with only an overpair if its not atleast a 3bet pot PF.
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nutsinho
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I'd put him on JT w/o a spade a bunch of the time. As such I'd probably call and shove any river.
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