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nogenius
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11-03-2006, 02:34 AM
Post subject: 100NL 6m Overpair in rr blind battle
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Full House
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($164.35)
UTG ($298.05)
MP ($242.65)
CO ($95.50)
Button ($128.65)
SB ($96)
Preflop: Hero is BB with J , J .
4 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $10.
Flop: ($28) 4, 6 , 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $17, SB raises to $41, Hero ???
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Villian seems like a possible nit - he's 16/9/1.5 over about 35 hands.
What's your play here?
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UG
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Bet more on the flop and I think you can get away from this. Your bet looks semi-weak, like a missed AK or something...88-TT could be pouncing on you here.
Or, this could be QQ-AA easily, this is a pretty standard line at this level.
I probably call and spike a jack on the turn, but that's just me.
P.S. As played I probably fold.
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andy-akb
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I dont really agree with betting the flop any bigger. In a reraised pot we simply do not need to be making near PSBs, I think his bet sizing is fine. 16/9 isnt _too_ nitty, but it comes down more to how he plays in these situations. Some players play a consistent game with those stats, others get frustrated and make a stand at the wrong time in these situations. If he does get frustrated, this could easily be an overpair that you beat. I push here.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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I fold. I don't like stacking off here with a medium overpair without some type of read. I think a smaller PP like 77-TT calls more often here and re-evaluates on the turn. If I had to guess, I'd say you're up against QQ+ fairly often. Even AQs and AKs are ahead of you.
Betting a little more on the flop makes this hand a lot easier to play.
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Fnord
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I felt this. Looks like he hit the spew button.
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gabe
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i would fold
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Renton
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i would bet like 22 and fold to a shove
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elipsesjeff
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yeah, your bet here on the flop is weak but somehow I don't feel this guy has you beat. I'm going to side with Fnord on this one and hope that he tries to push you off your hand with a bluff.
AA and KK rarily checkraise this flop and QQ might be afraid of an overpair as well. For some reasons I'm putting the villain on a couple overcards, the flush draw, or lower pair.
I'm not going to reraise him though as thats silly IMO. Let him push allin on the turn with the hand if you're going to play for stacks.
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I felt this. Looks like he hit the spew button.
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yummy!
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gabe
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
AA and KK rarily checkraise this flop
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they dont? those are the hands im most afraid of
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UG
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by gabe
Quote:
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
AA and KK rarily checkraise this flop
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they dont? those are the hands im most afraid of |
That's how I'd play it a lot of times. My thinking here if I get reraised preflop is, "Okay, you do the betting for me on the flop and then WHAMMO GOTCHABITCH." Or something like that.
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I'd fold. Villain has taken a very strong line and is not typically aggressive.
I think the flop bet size was fine. PSB often smells weaker to me on this kind of flop, than a 1/2-2/3 bet.
On balance I think we're behind too much of his range here.
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