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nogenius
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11-03-2006, 03:34 PM
Post subject: 100NL 6m Flop OESD in multiway rr pot
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($202.85)
Button ($165.25)
Hero ($99)
BB ($311.05)
UTG ($97.30)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q , A .
UTG raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $13, UTG calls $10.
Flop: ($42) 9, J , T (3 players)
Hero ???
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BB is a loose fish, while UTG is an unknown.
What's your play here?
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gabe
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sometimes check sometimes bet, theres no definite answer. checking usually leads to less mistakes later on in the hand though.
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Warpe
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Ugh. This is why I don't reraise with AQ very much OOP. I check here.
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This is pretty standard for me. I don't know why this wouldn't always be a bet here, chances are you can take down this nice pot on the flop with a cbet. If you do get called, you're pushing the turn anyway.
It also depends on your table image but I would hate to check, have someone either go all in or bet 3/4 the pot and I'm not able to call after building such a massive pot.
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I would hate to check, have someone either go all in or bet 3/4 the pot and I'm not able to call after building such a massive pot.
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That's why I'm not reraising p/f OOP.
If any decent c-bet we make gets raised, we're playing for stacks with a so-so draw.
Gack. I hate these spots.
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Warpe
That's why I'm not reraising p/f OOP.
If any decent c-bet we make gets raised, we're playing for stacks with a so-so draw.
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I could post how many times I 3bet OOP with AQo and then take the pot down on the flop after a rather large cbet. If you check here, you give AK a chance to play correctly here and more than often you do take the pot down here with a 3/4 size cbet. It seems like a lot of money but you have to realize thats 40% of a buyin in the pot already. Secondly, you're draw is not so-so at all. You have an OESD with two overcards and the pot is already massive.
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I could post how many times I 3bet OOP with AQo and then take the pot down on the flop after a rather large cbet. If you check here, you give AK a chance to play correctly here and more than often you do take the pot down here with a 3/4 size cbet. It seems like a lot of money but you have to realize thats 40% of a buyin in the pot already. Secondly, you're draw is not so-so at all. You have an OESD with two overcards and the pot is already massive.
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So let's say we make it $30 to go and one of our villains shoves over. Are we sticking the rest in? I guess we are with almost half our stack invested.
Can't say I like it very much.
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if i do bet, it would be full pot so i would feel better abuot calling a flop push
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