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100NL: 3bet flop: c-bet this?

  
 
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:06 AM     Post subject: 100NL: 3bet flop: c-bet this? #1 (permalink)  
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Seat 3: Hero [ AH,KC ] ($97.00 in chips)
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with A K
UTG folds, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 3 3 T ($29.5, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero ???

villain was 36/25/3.
Our image is tight. Should we c-bet this?
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:16 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Does he think you're full of shit yet? If not, then bet and fuck with him until you've established a healthy relationship with the table action.
 
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That's what I thought! I did not had a healthy enough relationship with the table action yet
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:16 AM #4 (permalink)  
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it doesn't really matter

if you c-bet and are called, then you get to shove any broadway on the turn

if you check-fold, it sucks for getting action on your overpairs vs this villain. that's kind of shitty since he seems loose preflop...

what's more important is to ask yourself, what happens if you c-bet and fold to a shove, pick up ak a couple orbits later, and the flop comes nothing again?
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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it doesn't really matter

if you c-bet and are called, then you get to shove any broadway on the turn

if you check-fold, it sucks for getting action on your overpairs vs this villain. that's kind of shitty since he seems loose preflop...

what's more important is to ask yourself, what happens if you c-bet and fold to a shove, pick up ak a couple orbits later, and the flop comes nothing again?
I see your point. and vs this kind of villain check-fold is bad.
As for the point if I c-bet and fold to a shove, I think this would require changing speeds with the same hand.
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