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mg0698
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10-20-2009, 07:17 PM
Post subject: 100NL 3barrels in 3b pot
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Villian is a good reg 23/19/5
The table just broke to 3handed decent spot for 3barrels in 3b pot?
I'd assume he would 4b AK PF
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Hero (BB): $147.55
Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9 8
BTN raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, BTN calls $7
Flop: ($22.50) K 6 4 (2 players)
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Turn: ($48.50) 4 (2 players)
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River: ($94.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $62
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griffey24
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Meh, not really a great spot. I agree that he'd 4bet AK, but that doesn't mean he can't have a calling down range here. As much as you think he doesn't have AK, he thinks you only/mostly rep AK, so he might call down light.
I'd rather do this on a board where his flop/turn calling range has more second pairs/draws on it (KT6ss) or something, where his calling range can be AJ,AQ,QJ,78,89,JT,T9, spades etc.
His flop calling range on this board is mostly all pairs (99-QQ), Kx and some spades.
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Renton
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preflop is pretty damn terrible
also wouldn't you be all in by the river if you actually had a hand you liked?
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I agree, dry unexciting boards are generally bad to barrel.
I mean with history and if you think he can level himself into folding thinking you'll never ever ever barrel air on such a clumsy board it has some merit but with no equity and the bottom card pairing my standard is to c/give up
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meeloche
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Originally Posted by Renton
also wouldn't you be all in by the river if you actually had a hand you liked?
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This is pretty important.
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mg0698
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Originally Posted by Renton
preflop is pretty damn terrible
also wouldn't you be all in by the river if you actually had a hand you liked?
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his fold to 3bet was 77% so i dont think its that bad ...
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Renton
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going 4 to 11 oop with a hand this bad is extremely minus ev, and even though his fold to 3bet is 77%, its gonna be far less when he has position and you use that size.
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Originally Posted by meeloche
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Originally Posted by Renton
also wouldn't you be all in by the river if you actually had a hand you liked?
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This is pretty important. |
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omg your turn bet size makes me want to rip out my eyes you are clearly getting looked up here alot, you've given yourself away and he definately will be able to sense something is up.
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Originally Posted by mg0698
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Originally Posted by Renton
preflop is pretty damn terrible
also wouldn't you be all in by the river if you actually had a hand you liked?
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his fold to 3bet was 77% so i dont think its that bad ... |
If his fold to 3bet is 77% then I don't think preflop is that bad, but that being said, its all the MORE reason to not run this line vs his range.
His range is strongg, so either shutdown after flop or c/f flop even. No point playing OOP with a crappy hand vs a strong range. Generally I 3bet ppl like this very light and happily just c/f when they call.
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Pelion
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half pot, half pot, 2/3 when everything misses just looks so suspicious.
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This works better if theres some serious history and levelling going on. Turns pretty bad barrel card, so unless theres some kind of "he knows I know its bad therefore he'll think if I bet it that I want to be called because its bad" shit going on its probably a good spot to shut down.
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set up a river shove, don t bet so small on a drawy turn (yes he can have hands like QJss when he flats the flop), raises to 15 pre, esp over 100bb s deep.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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What difference does it make that he can't have AK? He can have KQ and KJ and he's probably not folding them to this line. I love playing against people who think the fact that they can have the nuts and I can't, gives them license to keep betting with their entire range. The ISF theorem doesn't apply if your range is 80% air.
Agree with all of Renton's points too.
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