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minSim

09-12-2007, 09:42 AM Post subject: 100NL 3 hands

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Hand 1: Villain is unkown.
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $77.01
hero: $125.55
CO: $97.10
Button: $62.68
SB: $175.38
BB: $111.13

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG+1 with A

UTG folds, hero raises to $4, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9

($8.5, 2 players)
BB checks, hero bets $7, BB calls.

Turn: 8

($22.5, 2 players)
BB checks, hero checks.

I actually really don't know wether to bet this or not? Do we have enough FE?

River: 5

($22.5, 2 players)
BB bets $7, hero raises to $21, BB calls.

That seemed like a blocking bet to me. Though I'm paying 21 to win 30, so it has to work 40%, which afterwards I think is too much?

Hand 2 Only 15 hands of history with villain, no reads.
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $198.61
CO: $42.86
hero: $98.00
SB: $83.68
BB: $160.11

Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is Button with 4

UTG calls, CO calls, hero raises to $7, 2 folds, UTG calls, CO folds.

Flop: Q

($16.5, 2 players)
UTG bets $12, hero calls.

I usually don't know what to make of these donk bets. A set or flush draw, maybe TP makes sense here, but I see a lot of air donk betting as well.

Turn: 5

($40.5, 2 players)
UTG bets $20.25, hero raises all-in $79

This is bad isn't it?

Hand 3 Villains is 25/23/2.3 over 50 hands, fwiw. Seemed ok.
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Blinds: $0.50/$1
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Stack sizes:
hero: $100.51
CO: $78.12
Button: $121.38
SB: $123.45
BB: $89.92

Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is UTG with 8

hero raises to $4, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 4

($12.5, 3 players)
BB checks, hero bets $8.5, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: 3

($29.5, 2 players)
hero checks, Button checks.

I don't want to fold out 22,55,66,77 and would like overcards to bluff it, so I'm c/cing. I'd probably double barrel this with AK. Anything wrong with the reasoning on both?
- If we c/c, what's our river plan?

River: 7

($29.5, 2 players)
hero checks, Button bets $20, hero calls.

OK? or b/f > c/c because of turn checking through?

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Vi-Zer0Skill

09-12-2007, 12:30 PM

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Hand 1: the biggest reason i don't like your line here is because if i were villain i would be unable to put you on a very strong hand. As played i would just call the river, since he could have missed a draw himself. I would bet the turn $17-19.

Hand 2: Generally i would think villain would be holding a flush draw, a set, or something speculative like 8-8 on the flop. Calling the flop is okay, but once the flush draw comes in i would fold the turn since i can't see villain folding much given his line.

Hand 3: c/f turn is better i think. What do you think he is betting the turn with that you beat? I don't think he would bet 2-2 - 7-7, and at 100NL i don't remember seeing many players who were capable of floating IP with air planning to steal on the turn.

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09-12-2007, 02:18 PM

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bode is an unknown quantity at this point

hand 1: i like double barreling here and i think you get villain to fold weak TP and small pps. As played i just fold the river.

hand 2: this is just gross spew. flop call is so-so but i dont even like it.

hand 3: double barrell some here. as played i think its fine.

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snowbird4life

09-12-2007, 03:45 PM

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Hand 1: Double barrel the turn. If nothing hits, check behind/fold river. Maybe call is smallll bet.

Hand 2: I Raise his flop bet and continue to rep a strong hand. As played, i hate your turn move. Hate it. I think he is calling with anything from a bare queen to his donkbetted flush.

Hand 3: I think this is mostly just fine. As played i probably plan on c/f turn though, and not c/cing.

mixchange

09-12-2007, 05:31 PM

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hand 1: bet turn, tons of outs and he will likely fold a marginal hand, as played river raise i don't like much as you checked the turn and river didnt do much to hand

hand 2: fold pf, yes you have position but at least one limper is calling you and your hand sucks. i'd raise this only if folded to.

hand 3: don't play mid pp's just to see a cheap river. if you are willing to put the $20 on the river, better spent on the turn.

checking too many turns i think is getting you into trouble.

minSim

09-13-2007, 05:56 AM

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Ok thanks for the feedback guys.

Results were the following:
Hand 1: Villain called 9T, nice call.
If the turn wasn't 8

but lets say T

, does that change a lot?

Hand 2: Villain folded.
This was actually the only hand that worked out well for me results wise, but I was quite sure it was a bad play.

Hand 3: I called and villain showed JT.

andy-akb

09-13-2007, 04:48 PM

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1) Against an unknown on this card I am simply checking behind here. On a different [non pairing] card, I would consider betting again if I had some read or stat that indicated villain called cbets light. Against unknowns, Ive really stopped making plays like this. Simply fold.

2) I think I probably raise this flop and expect to get a lot of folds. Also, if he shoves, it is easy to fold. As played we really have o idea what sort of hands he could have. A FD is a huge part of his range, so I really dont like the shove. As played, we just need to pitc this hand on the turn

3) With a hand like this I really think that its best to fire the turn again. We are going to be folding out those hands and also the overcards [most likely], but I think taking this pot down now is much better than trying to play a big pot on the river OOP without being the aggressor

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