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100 nl - TT in 3bet pot on j high gets river shoved

  
 
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:04 AM     Post subject: 100 nl - TT in 3bet pot on j high gets river shoved #1 (permalink)  
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Villain seems like a TAG reg over 200 hands or so, around 18/15/2.5, 5% 3bet.

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UTG ($104)
Hero (MP) ($107)
CO ($58.50)
Button ($100)
SB ($76.25)
BB ($100)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, 10
UTG raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 1 fold, Button raises to $11, 3 folds, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($26.50) 3, 7, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($26.50) J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $18, Hero calls $18

River: ($62.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $71 (All-In), Hero ?
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:48 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i assume by the lack of replies that this is a close spot?
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:52 PM #3 (permalink)  
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why did you check the turn? if you think your hand is too weak vs his range to bet the turn for value, then how can the river not be a fold?
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:57 PM #4 (permalink)  
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get value from air i spose
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Old 12-26-2008, 11:33 PM #5 (permalink)  
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not saying it would be good/bad, but is he 'goofy' enough to delayed cbet air here? i mean, usually people are either cbetting flop or giving up with air on this board. They cant really represent having Jx too well after squeezing an utg raise +mp call.
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Old 12-27-2008, 01:52 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I dont see anything wrong with folding this preflop
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:37 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I don't think I know enough about him to say whether he'd delayed cbet with air, but i ASSUME he would sometimes balance his range by checking back his big pairs.
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:50 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I doubt the TAG reg would turn AK on the river into a bluff, so pretty trivial fold or am I missing something? Then again you don't look like you can call a shove - but that line of thinking often gets me to bleed money in 3bet pots.
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Old 12-27-2008, 07:23 AM #9 (permalink)  
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what do we think of villains play with:

missed overs
KK+
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:26 AM #10 (permalink)  
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No way a tagish villain is bluffing here. Smells like JJ checking for some kind of potcontrol or to get value out of small pps.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:28 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Although there are not many J's he can represent by squeezing an UTG raise, Im not sure if villan will know this and after you check back to him twice he thinks he can get you off a low PP or an AK/AQs type hand, and when you just check check call check your giving him room to do this.

Whats your line if you have QQ-AA here and presume you just flatted pre. Do you play it the same and let villan hang himself?
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Old 12-27-2008, 06:27 PM #12 (permalink)  
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tbh i'd probably bet the turn/river with qq+
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